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>which can be reasonable - but not indefinitely
yup.
>I'll read this tonight and will post more thoughts then.
looking forward to it!
>I can't disagree with any of this - look after your own patch, teach others to look after theirs, defend against the bullies
this too. Shaolin kung fu, find a flaw. monks who want to think about the Buddha and can break your collarbones if you act like a dick are fine with me. so, i suppose, are Catholic nuns with rocket launchers in the basement. 'tis all the same. sometimes you *do* get peace through superior firepower, it's just that said Peace has to have a certain circumference...and actually *be* Peace.
>But fragmentation will still lead to conflict when things go wrong - hence why I'm against the Patchwork way of going about it. Patchwork leads to the separation between those who want extreme growth and those who want restraint, ultimately bringing conflict. I'm on team restraint, obviously, so I move ahead to post-victory planning - the holistic state that cultivates excellence and nobility, manages population wisely, practices ahimsa, and allies with any people who have an affinity with them.
all true. Patchwork has problems, there's no question. and even now it's not like if the Red Team *or* the Blue Team Patchified that, owing to the (insanely broken/40K-style) nature of the electoral system, that small and functional patches wouldn't get out-voted by huge, bloated, horrible systems with big media budgets. but these are questions for political theorists to sort, not Space Taoist disco balls.
>To me it means neither small nor large, but optimal ;)
well said! i agree. let's go with your definition then.
>as I said, there's a lot of potential violence in that process - I'd like to head that off if it's possible via education and awareness to minimize the damage
i like education and awareness. i have a section on Moar Grip in the OP (>>12032879) to this end. those Arts of Living/Ars Moriendi are all examples of what YH calls Cosmotechnics for this reason. Daoism and Stoicism are both forms of this. the *real* rubicon to be crossed is to *make these compatible with actual technology also,* and that is where things get very interesting (and also very complicated). education is indeed the thing, and goes with the anthropotechnics. it's better *people* that matter, and not only the Improved Society. people first. that's the

a wonderful, Moroder-tier post. Giorgio gives his approval. looking forward to your thoughts on RG later, or whatever else is on yr mind.