/lit/ - Literature

>>6789733
>everyone interested in Chalcedonian schismatics and not Oriental Orthodoxy

>>4773408
>tfw no one even knows about Oriental Orthodoxy

>>4335857
>Catholicism is the only sensible form of Christianity.
Nah

>>4329009
Judas, being a Jew, believed the Messiah that was promised would basically be a warrior that would not only perform miracles but free the Jews from heathen tyranny and usher in the age in which orthodoxy and peace would rule over the world. Judas always believed that Jesus was this Messiah and followed him patiently, but he began to doubt when Jesus wasn't amassing armies, inspiring revolution amongst the populace, that sort of thing. Becoming impatient, Judas devised a plan where he would secretly deliver Jesus to the Romans, not so that Jesus would be executed but so that Jesus would call down the armies of Heaven and fulfill himself as the messiah. This explains why Judas only took a small bag of silver- the money was simply part of the motions. So Judas' great sin was that he sold out the Christ so that -his- idea of the messiah would come about, when God's true plan (according to Christian orthodoxy) was to save man through Himself. Like the Pagan priests, Judas thought he could control God, fool Him into acting in the way he wanted. Judas finds his Lord suffering the great humiliations of the torture and the cross and Judas kills himself for having utterly, horribly betrayed the most noble man he'd ever known, ultimately, for a few pieces of silver; this was so far outside of his intentions that he could not live with the shame.

The challenging question that comes from this is whether or not the Cross, specifically, was needed for the Christ to fulfill Man's redemption. Different groups might have different answers, but it's interesting to think Christ would have redeemed us another way but, being so drowned in ourselves (the Sea was a symbol of the turbulence of sin in the world- Christ merely walks on it and can calm it) we took Him to the cross to die.

Why does no one want to go for ancient Christianity via the Oriental churches?

>>3752296
You guys know the Oriental Churches are the oldest and closest to orthodoxy ye?

Judas, being a Jew, believed the Messiah that was promised would basically be a warrior that would not only perform miracles but free the Jews from heathen tyranny and usher in the age in which orthodoxy and peace would rule over the world. Judas always believed that Jesus was this Messiah and followed him patiently, but he began to doubt when Jesus wasn't amassing armies, inspiring revolution amongst the populace, that sort of thing. Becoming impatient, Judas devised a plan where he would secretly deliver Jesus to the Romans, not so that Jesus would be executed but so that Jesus would call down the armies of Heaven and fulfill himself as the messiah. This explains why Judas only took a small bag of silver- the money was simply part of the motions. So Judas' great sin was that he sold out the Christ so that -his- idea of the messiah would come about, when God's true plan (according to Christian orthodoxy) was to save man through Himself. Like the Pagan priests, Judas thought he could control God, fool Him into acting in the way he wanted. Judas finds his Lord suffering the great humiliations of the torture and the cross and Judas kills himself for having utterly, horribly betrayed the most noble man he'd ever known, ultimately, for a few pieces of silver; this was so far outside of his intentions that he could not live with the shame.

The challenging question that comes from this is whether or not the Cross, specifically, was needed for the Christ to fulfill Man's redemption. Different groups might have different answers, but it's interesting to think Christ would have redeemed us another way but, being so drowned in ourselves (the Sea was a symbol of the turbulence of sin in the world- Christ merely walks on it and can calm it) we took Him to the cross to die.