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>I hate the reading idlers

>>22019452
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>Incidentally, the whole problem of the Jews exists only within national states, inasmuch as their energy and higher intelligence, their capital of spirit and will, which accumulated from generation to generation in the long school of their suffering, must predominate to a degree that awakens envy and hatred; and so, in the literature of nearly all present-day nations (and, in fact, in proportion to their renewed nationalistic behavior), there is an increase in the literary misconduct that leads the Jews to the slaughterhouse, as scapegoats for every possible public and private misfortune. As soon as it is no longer a matter of preserving nations, but rather of producing the strongest possible mixed European race, the Jew becomes as useful and desirable an ingredient as any other national quantity. Every nation, every man has disagreeable, even dangerous characteristics; it is cruel to demand that the Jew should be an exception. Those characteristics may even be especially dangerous and frightful in him, and perhaps the youthful Jew of the stock exchange is the most repugnant invention of the whole human race. Nevertheless, I would like to know how much one must excuse in the overall accounting of a people which, not without guilt on all our parts, has had the most sorrowful history of all peoples, and to whom we owe the noblest human being (Christ), the purest philosopher (Spinoza), the mightiest book, and the most effective moral code in the world.
Human, All Too Human 475

>I like not, again, these newest speculators in idealism, the Anti-Semites, who nowadays roll their eyes in the patent Christian-Aryan-man-of-honour fashion, and by an abuse of moralist attitudes and agitation dodges, so cheap as to exhaust any patience, strive to excite all the blockhead elements in the populace (the invariable success of every kind of intellectual charlatanism in present-day Germany hangs together with the almost indisputable and already quite palpable desolation of the German mind, whose cause I look for in a too exclusive diet, of papers, politics, beer, and Wagnerian music, not forgetting the condition precedent of this diet, the national exclusiveness and vanity, the strong but narrow principle, "Germany, Germany above everything," and finally the paralysis agitans of "modern ideas").
Genealogy of Morals essay 3 paragraph 26

>mfw finding out Nietzche was a homophile

>>21408785
"Important" is a bit loaded but I'll say what you could get out of Nietzsche. On a simple level - psychological analysis, historical analysis, a pretty compellng account of what it really means to be a "philosopher" as well as what the source of our values are and the distortions that have occured along the way. More than anything, a vivid picture of what is distinct in modern life.

I think it's an excellent philosophy. Nietzsche is no one's "bottom line" and frankly I don't think he intended that. It's a perspective, a unique vantage point with unique observations. The psychological and historiological import are evident enough if you pay attention to those fields. Psychology as we know it came to form with some significant orientation to Nietzsche. Nietzschean history people unfortunately may veer in the postmodernist/deconstructionist direction - Nietzsche is not equivalent to this, just well liked in that area. Artists loved him. Germans... Soon after Nietzsche's death, he became so significant that Heidegger said you could define who a German individual was by their interpretation of NIetzsche.

The real question, of course, is what do you get out of Nietzsche?

This is a philosophy of life-affirmation, a simple and fairly obvious principle that yet defines a major split in the way people live, think, and value. It'll force a lot of reflection on whether you are doing things for the right reasons.

My overall impression of Nietzsche's project so far is that it's aimed at inspiration. He wants his reader to become authentic and creative. There's a lot of fire and edge on the way there, the intended method of which is fucking obvious if you are an honest and reasonable reader.

> edgy teenager
And this is a major filter. It is easier to read him and relate him to familiar sorts of people. 'Who is this guy, calling normies stupid, calling himself smart, saying God is dead and calling our morality a disease?'
This makes sense if you're reading an incel's manifesto. This is not Nietzsche. He knows what he's doing, he was recognized by more than enough people as a genius, and if there is one thing he doesn't lack it's self awareness. The fact that we react as negatively as we do to someone questioning conventions or complimenting themselves folds right in with one of his main arguments... Isn't it strange that we react so violently to self celebration or being challenged by others? The Greeks were different.

As a final point... It is aimed at a specific sort of reader. A philosophical type, obviously, but also one who is willing to venture out and entertain some dangerous and inconvient possibilities. And someone who is willing to stick their neck out and dare to feel a little inspiration, to believe in new possibilities. People now and again speak of "outgrowing" Nietzsche - often they just mean losing affinity with the state of inspiration that gets conventionally regarded as belonging to and expiring with youth.

>>21338646
Don't know what Nietzsche would think about trannies, but he liked homosexuality based on the Greek model:
>The erotic relation of men to youths was the necessary and sole preparation, to a degree unattainable to our comprehension, of all manly education (pretty much as for a long time all higher education of women was only attainable through love and marriage). All idealism of the strength of the Greek nature threw itself into that relation, and it is probable that never since have young men been treated so attentively, so lovingly so entirely with a view to their welfare (virtus) as in the fifth and sixth centuries B.C.— according to the beautiful saying of Holderlin: “denn liebend giebt der Sterbliche vom Besten”. The higher the light in which this relation was regarded, the lower sank intercourse with women.
Human All Too Human 259

>Plato goes further. He says with an innocence possible only for a Greek, not a "Christian," that there would be no Platonic philosophy at all if there were not such beautiful youths in Athens: it is only their sight that transposes the philosopher's soul into an erotic trance, leaving it no peace until it lowers the seed of all exalted things into such beautiful soil
Twilight of the Idols chapter 8, 23

>What does our chatter about the Greeks amount to! What do we understand of their art, the soul of which is passion for naked male beauty!
Daybreak, Aphorism 170

>>21312264
Altruism is a failure to give, just as ressentiment is a failure to receive. If you had any respect for your fellow man you wouldn't pity him.

>>20856474

>Bruh, look at this dude

Rent free. Keep seething, faggot.

Today everyone allows himself to express his dearest wish and thoughts: so I, too, want to say what I wish from myself today and what thought first crossed my heart - what thought shall be the reason, warrant, and sweetness of the rest of my life! I want to learn more and more how to see what is necessary in things as what is beautiful in them - thus I will be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love from now on! I do not want to wage war against ugliness. I do not
want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse the accusers. Let looking away be my only negation! And, all in all and on the whole: some day I want only to be a Yes-sayer

was he left or right?

No

>Today everyone allows himself to express his dearest wish and thoughts: so I, too, want to say what I wish from myself today and what thought first crossed my heart - what thought shall be the reason, warrant, and sweetness of the rest of my life! I want to learn more and more how to see what is necessary in things as what is beautiful in them - thus I will be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati: let that be my love from now on! I do not want to wage war against ugliness. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse the accusers. Let looking away be my only negation! And, all in all and on the whole: some day I want only to be a Yes-sayer!
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>>20627517
Well, again not trying to make assumptions, but this is a bit uninteresting. There's still things to do left to pull you out a little bit. I know it's hard, take time when you need. This is like taking a fighter jet towards your destination though

We exist in a world of objects around us, we perform actions every day right. Even if it's just habits or behaviors, each of them elicit a positive/negative emotion every time you perform a behavior. How many times have you repeated the same actions expecting something else to happen? Similarly, how does someone get their life started again? Simple -> Time yourself on a small task (reading 15 pages, practicing writing, doing chores around your place) -> Get it done under pressure -> Fight/flight adrenaline and motivation chemicals kick in -> Habits form (over 15-30 days)
Even if you're feeling completely numb. This is just to get you back in the moment. If someone can't feel anything at all, best thing to do is taking cold shower/bath then set a timer for the everyday pointless seeming stuff.

Not trying to call you boring, but wouldn't it have some use for you? At least you'll get your mind off it. Time yourself, read a book or write your thoughts down. Journal something.
This is to tune you back in with working under pressure. Moving quicker. Rapid action. Feeling. Order under chaos

>>20561526
300 years later and Nietzsche still makes trannies seethe. You make this thread everyday.

Friedrich Nietzsche is regarded as a psychologist because a lot of the things he talk about are about people and the motivations behind their words and actions and such. I am reading Nietzsche now and i realize that a lot of his passages are just about everyday mundane situations where he shows or hints at the underlying motivations behind various social games, customs, interactions or behaviors.

I want to hear if anyone have observed any real life situations in their day to day life that are real life examples of the things that Nietzsche writes. And i want to hear people's thoughts on their favorite passage or just any thought anyone have made about any of his passages. If you have any questions about any of his quotes and want it explained the come and ask. Don't be embarrassed. Some of the things he writes are really complex but some are really simple, no need to have a dick measuring contest.

Is there a Gigachad marx edit? Like this one with Nietzsche but with Marx.

>>20425435
You know who

>>20371845
gl

I've read GoM, BGE, ToI, Antichrist, TGS, am I ready for Zarathustra?

Fuck off slave