/lit/ - Literature

We lost marxbros

>>18946259

>>16771647
>Marxism is also an ideology
It literally isn't
If you actually read a book you would know that.
Dumb faggot

>>16641451
ohnononononono

>>16641760
ohnonononononono

A trash refutation of Hegel which hardly makes any sense

This is the only book you need to give a Christcuck for them to realize the imbecility of their lifestyle desu.

>>14304531
>Bro I read the book.
which book? the manifesto? it was a rushed pamphlet aimed at working class people and is only like 30 small pages, how could hope to get an overview of his thought from that
>All his arguments are idealistic
No, they are materialist, and he explicitly eschewed 'utopian socialism'.
>and don't take into account human nature.
Marx believes that what we call 'human nature' changes drastically based on the mode of production people live in, which has empirically shown to be true - ask any anthropologist or economic historian. Also, in the 1844 manuscripts, Marx believes there that human nature is to *enjoy* work when it isn't estranged by economic coercion.
>We are selfish and act in our own self-interest, that's the reason society is the way it is.
Yes, that is the way capitalism is. People would behave differently in communism; see above with regard to his claims on 'human nature' changing.
>Objecting to this fact is simply ignoring everything around you.
'everything around me' is capitalism, if you naively look at everything around you and come to the conclusion that it is eternal and natural (despite the current mode and relations of production being only about 300 years old) you are espousing what Marx called 'ideology'. He viewed that every mode of production created 'ideology' - justifications, dogmas, etc - which correspond to the economic base of society. so for example in feudalism everyone thought monarchy was eternal and natural based on doctrines such as the divine right of kings; this belief was a way to secure the feudal mode of production, as it relied on monarchial relations of production. thinking that humans are 'naturally' greedy and selfish, or any other argument of that kind, is the equivalent for capitalism

Is Stirner refuted or is Marx seething?