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>>22304628
>>the condition of the proletariat did not worsen over time in industrial capitalist societies but actually got better

>>the communist revolutions only happened in semi-industrial societies like China and Russia, not advanced ones
They werent even semi. The revolutions in industrial societies happens when profit rates are much closer to zero. See chart.

>>worker's movements in western countries got redirected into nationalistic movements like National Socalism/Fascism; there was no international proletarian solidarity
That's a very broad statement and largely inaccurate. The CIA is always busy shutting down potential revolutions.

>>minimum wage, child labour laws, socialised education, and the welfare state protected the proletariat against poverty while maintaining capitalist production
Yeah, brought about by socialists, labor organizers, communists, etc. Here's the thing, Communists don't hate industry and Capitalism we just want it to progress and outgrow its larval state. Marx wanted free trade and mega corps. Push that shit into nitro so we can see where it breaks.

>>the USSR collapsed
>>China liberalised
Yup, win some lose some. Capitalism is still in a perpetual death spiral. If you race someone with AIDs and they win are they a winner? No, they have aids.

>>the western left-wing moved away from the grand narrative of dialectical materialism to an effeminate egalitarian sentimentalism
Yeah, this was absolutely devastating but makes a lot of sense since industry has moved away from the west.

>>the focus shifted from the material liberation of the proletariat to the psychological liberation of the individual from concepts like sex, race, gender, and tradition.
Yup, some of its good but the rest is western bs.

>>the few remaining Orthodox Marxists are daily coping how everything is still going according to plan, meanwhile their western leftist comrades view them as outlandish "tankies"
That's fine. The truth is the truth and doesn't need to speak a word. The mathematical reality of the Capitalist mode of production was outline by Marx. Today's Capitalism still functions by taking into account Marx's analysis. The empirical data shows that his predictions were accurate. Math doesn't need cheerleaders and sophists to make it right.

>>22298680
>That's managerial class. Bourgeoisie own more fake paper than money, very few of them are incredibly rich and a lot of them can't do anything.
Managers are literally managers. They tend to the garden Capital but the person who owns the garden is the important one. Every rich person is rich from owning capital and they can essentially do whatever they feel like. The reason why managers are anything is because more and more they are being incorporated into the bourgeoisie.

>Contraat this with royals and nobles who are conveniently hidden away while still having more power and money.
I mean this was true in 17th century France where absolutism gave more power to court officials as opposed to the king.

>Ford even in his time shown that capitalism doesn't need to weight down on the workers or consumers if good ethic is applied.
Ford was unique and lucky. Even then he fell into Fascist scapegoating as a reaction to the inability of Capitalism to care for the proliteriate. "It cant be the inherent flaws of capitalism at fault it must be...the Jews."

>We're living under financial capitalism and Ford had to be shown his place by the government.
More like the well paid workers and sought after workers across America has to be shown their place by the corporations. Look at the dip that flipped after the 70's. Traditional manufacturing was being eaten by high pay and increasing capital investments so they petition the government to create a global neoliberal market economy where they can have cheap capital and cheap labor. Meanwhile America has been hallowed out.

>>15064877
Ever if there is a WWIII, that doesn't solve the TRPF. Production will be massively destroyed, billions of humans as well, automation and productivity will increase due to war effort, profit will increase during the war and the following years, but in the end, what will happen in exactly what happened at the end of WWI, and WWII: profit will decrease again.