/lit/ - Literature

>>19607241
It is meet and right that woman should now have the liberty of vengeance following centuries of the most harrowing and humiliating misogyny in the West. Your feelings of consternation are but the most picayune of prices in comparison to the veritable enslavement of the fairer sex since the very origins of Western civilization.

>>12340724
>>12341048
The simple fact that you responded to my post means, to me, that a part of you, deep down inside of you, believes at least a modicum of what I said. What Rodger did was evil, but there is an iota of beauty in his life, and death, and even if you don't acknowledge it, a part of you admires the man.

>In The Republic, Plato outlines an ideal system of education. Here is the timetable: up until the age of twenty, music and gymnastics, for the development of a useful body and sharpened sensibilities; between twenty and thirty, the liberal arts, grammar, rhetoric, logic, and especially mathematics, for the training of a disciplined mind, a mind skilled in the operations of learning and thinking; between thirty and fifty, a period devoted to the world’s work, engagement in the various activities of civic life, experience of the pains and frustrations of practical problems, personal and public; and then, finally, at fifty, return to the academy for ten years of the study of philosophy. Then—and only then—is anyone fit to govern the state!

Given our ever increasing lifespans, aimless youth and rising healthcare costs, did Plato (PLAY-doh) have it right all along?

>The courage and freedom of affect in the face of a powerful enemy, in the face of a sublime hardship, in the face of a horrible problem, this victorious state is what the tragic artist selects, what he glorifies. The martial aspects of our soul celebrate their saturnalia in the face of tragedy; anyone who is used to suffering, anyone who goes looking for suffering, the heroic man praises his existence through tragedy, the tragedian raises the drink of sweetest cruelty to him alone.
>Twilight of The Idols
What books capture this spirit?

In other words, what works of fiction relish in suffering and immorality in this ecstatic vein of the early tragedies? For me, Lolita fits perfectly into this: everything goes wrong for everyone and they all had it coming, and it's beautiful and enticing and sexually sadistic.

>>10008644

My first thoughts were A Scanner Darkly - Phillip K. Dick, but the split in the singular got me thinking of Herman Hesse. Steppenwolf, then Narcissus and Goldmund.


>As to pic related

I love Kierkegaard's teleological suspension of the ethical, taking Abraham to the mountain top and lifting the knife. For this, we call him patriarch. Judith lifted the knife for God as well, and let it fall to save her people. WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS