/lit/ - Literature

>>15587090
Despite the fact that we are on opposing sides of this debate, I agree with many of your sentiments. You said that you read many of the good ones such as Muvluv, Suba Hibi, Fate, and Umineko.

Personally this is where I deviate a bit from the VN fandom, but I think Muvluv is a waste of time and Fate is sacrilegious for not even trying to accurately portray the hysterical/mythological figures it portrays. On top of already being poorly written. Umineko is great, but I agree with your criticisms of it. And I also love Suba Hibi, but again agree with your criticisms.

If you want VN recommendations which have minimal bullshit I would recommend Narcissu and Swan Song. Both are entertaining from start to finish, and have poignant themes to them. They are the closest to quality literature I have found so far.

I would also include Sayonara wo Oshiete in that category, but unless if you can read Japanese its inaccessible. If you can read Japanese though, would highly recommend this one as well.

>>15197357
The fun of visual novels (when they actually are good) isn't the visuals its actually the audio (music and if available voices).

When a track is used at the perfect timing and completely resonates with the mood of the scene that the words have conveyed, its a more powerful experience then any standalone reading experience I had with a regular book. Granted, few VNs manage to achieve that kino.