/lit/ - Literature

>>7539739
When the mongols took over China the traditional chinesse culture that people like Hegel recognized was considered trash. When political power changes so does the value system you use to judge almost everything.

When futurist defended nazism they were being as intelectual as the people consdiered degenerated. Maybe not on their book, but from outside of the debate it's easy to consider both intelectuals with different agendas.

>>7539742
don't try to universalize your ideas, not only are you pretending we don't have 7000 years of written history but also assume that politics limited to liberalism vs neoliberalism is present in the whole world. Inb4 "only the US can have intelectuals"

>>7286192
because a trully good piece of work needs to be digested through multiple audiences and repeated reading. it's not a big mac and writing isn't the way to get quick appraisal unless you just want to sell a lot and then be forgotten

How about you try making this into some sort of narration? While life experience is useful actual writing tends to be the most vital point of writing.

>>6906523
>whether or not your indiviual ancestors kept a position in power in the government, you as an american have benefited from war and are complicit in it.

>whether or not your indiviual ancestors were christians, you as an occidental have benefited from the church and are complicit in child rape.

>whether or not your indiviual ancestors were carnivores, you as a human have benefited from killing animals and are complicit in it.

>whether or not your indiviual ancestors evolved, you as a living organism have benefited from erasing other potential species and are complicit in it.

why do you americans love carrying so much guilt and acting as if that's insight?

>>6521185
>You're not even going to really help them
this should be the main point of it all, you can't force someone to be in a better state. "helping them" is usually translated to one of the following
>forcing them to do things they don't want to
>being cheery around them when they don't want that
>explaining to them why their feelings are wrong
>proposing useless things to do that neither of you would do
>sit down and absorb all their negativity
>all of the above
even worse when you're 17, you can't even help yourself.

>>6371153
Postmodern is a very particular reaction to modernism, not any possible one. Reviving genres or mediums can be perfectly tied to a modern metanarrative.

>>6358486
>he thinks Bukowsky is a deep writer
>he considers Kerouac a Buddhist teacher
>he doesn't read outloud his favorite passages so he can perfectly recite them
>he doesn't want the spice to flow
>he thinks war is inherently bad
>he thinks war is inherently good
>HE DOESN'T WANT THE FUCKING SPICE TO FLOW

>>6293740
He can barely write, don't be mean to him.

>>6288922
It's like less than 200 pages, how can you not finish it?

>>5915192
Even if you really need to give a book to a 14 year old you can get her some Hesse.

I just can't care enough to read this, OP.
You'll see a lot of jokes about prose vs plot, but you have to at least consider your prose when selecting a text to be read by people outside of its circle. Some items:

1º There is more introduction explaining mechanics than presenting a context and characters for the narration. Who are making this actions? I don't even know how many of you were, why would I care about the game itself?

2º At no point should you sacrifice the reading enjoyment for commodity explaining things. If you can't efficiently transmit the emotion you might as well not mention it since the reader won't care about the content.

>The Orks came and we killed them.
>The Orks came again and we killed them.
>The Orks came again and we killed them, but now we were low on ammo.
>The Orks came again and some of us died.
>The Orks came again and brought a tank and the rest of us died, except for me, I ran.
disgusting
3º You have to chose your focus point, or develop both, but you can't just jump from the players to the characters without giving depth to anyone.
If you want to write about the players tell us about them, make us interested in the game through them. If you want to write about the story that developed in the game you have to tell us about what's going on in much more detail from the start, tell us names and locations, show what your character's life is like.

4º Drop the cliches.
>The bastards in command
I wouldn't wish this kind of horror to anyone. What are you even trying to do? In game role? Who talks like a cheap Hays period movie in your orc war setting?
You have to think about why you write things a certain way or there's no point in writing it.

If you want it as a general synopsis, I don't know, it might work but I couldn't reach the meat so I can't say. As a writer you need to dedicate more time to re reading and correcting.

Are you all this ones? Are you sort of new to 4chan or /lit/? the thread will be here for days, don't worry too much.
>>5692436
>>5692440
The initial point was that your defense of BNW being a distopia because they aren't free is based on your idea of freedom, and it's different from the idea they have. They do a pretty limited amount of things, but that was just Huxley being straight forward with what he wanted to tell, if another writer more interest in setting took that universe he could add a lot of things inside of that same logic.
Bernard is sent to the island for being an envious fuck, he wanted acceptance like most people in real life do. Helmholtz was not only happy to be sent there but he also never connected with the foreign feelings John had.
The whole point is showing a society that doesn't control through prohibition but through persuasion and happiness, and arguing about the wrongs of pure happiness. But at the end even Huxley recognized that for some that is much more than what they get from our flawed and more open society.

If it ends looking like a cardboard world it's just that Huxley didn't want to devote his life to presenting a potential world of tomorrow, you have to assume the life in that future has a wider variety of things to do and values to have or you'll get bothered by all the wrong things and get an impression not out of the topic but out of the approach the writer had.

>>5692442
>Sir
You're mean!