/lit/ - Literature

>>21059670
What pseud? "his books"? No one here shills Wilson's books. I'm not even shilling his book here. I'm bringing up the concept of personal/cultural mythologies. The stories we tell ourselves are thin and stupid these days, and you people are a part of the problem. You refuse to accept any alternate storyline. I was hoping to get a cross section of the two most pervasive stories from people, but you/they're extremely guarded about it. I can only guess you're all Apocalyptics rather than Progressivists.
No, this thread was prompted because of the Toynbee quote which I got out of a John Michael Greer book. (quoted and pictured above). You guys have been swinging your pickaxes as a scarecrow and ignoring the substance. But, it's because you're scared

>>21043026
>an uninterrupted state of nature.
A delusional perspective

>>21043033
Communities exist independent of states all the time. The paperwork of lawyers mean very little to nature. Apollonian fool.

>>21042912
Time runs in one direction. There's numerous books that explain this, show this to be the fact of the matter. People don't pick up on it so much I suppose, but here, I've told you. It's a natural enough trait to idealize the past, whether our own youths or the past we just missed out on, and to fear the future, loath the decay of aging and dying. Life takes a little courage is all. There's books for that too.
This book might cheer you up or send a shiver down your spin for what it shows is to come. Or both.

>>21025746
Oh, I didn't see you. I said nothing about the noble savage. You reveal that you believe in the noble civilized myth this way. The dark age is what you people call it because that's just what you were taught. And the papacy had a lot of the power during that period is all. You assume too much about what I'm saying.
I suppose you're going to pull Malthus out of your ass if I tell you why the lights are going out in a generation or two.

>>20972292
You want me to trot on over to that parallel universe where we don't have state capitalist robot factory schooling and show how the population of the earth educates itself and how people pursue their interests when left to their own devises (not video game systems and other childish pursuits of this world). No. I'm sorry. I don't have the spreadsheets to text you. I have an imagination. Unlike you.
Maybe read some history books. You know the founders didn't go to high school right? Ben Franklin. read his autobiography. No schooling.

>>20972309
After collapse, we'll have to use our own wits, but yeah, we'll have to develop them first.