/lit/ - Literature

>>13652136
Even Plato solved your number claim there bongo. Numbers exist outside of our head, they are placeholders for concepts in the world or outside of it. See 0 for example it simple does not exist empirical. On Mandelbrot sets where only discoverd afther we had enough computing power to see them. They can even fin in your brain because are infinite.

>>8350035
Well said. There is certainly underlying Truth that is being sampled by all forms of life (or any object for that matter), whether or not they can describe it or even be consciously aware of it, etc. It's encouraging because as you say, we can still make use of it.

>The "truth" will not be found in any language, in any books, or in any model.
I think I disagree with this though, there's some spooky stuff in mathematics which seems separate from reality that I would call Truth (in a self-contained kind of way).

>inb4 muh ideal forms

Fucking best book I've ever read. It's on a site called truthcontest, and it's awesome.

>>4318591
This isn't true, by any means.

Sanity, for this example, is going to purely operate off of mathematical logic. Simply because everything else is inconsistent.

Now listen, in math many things have no reason to work, but easily do. In calc, a lot of things that normally don't work in the mind of logic, work easily.

For example, the derivative of the function "sine" is "cosine". Think about that, the function that describes the slope of every tangent line at all points, is its corresponding function.

And the area under its curve, is also the corresponding function.

None of those really have a reason to work, but can be mathematically proven.

Things like fractals, these mathematical works of art, are like nothing ever observed. But they can be proven, and are incredibly chaotic when observed from a laymen.

You, wrongfully, take into consideration that because things have no reason to exist, mathematically should cease. So therefor things that don't cease, are abstract of mathematical reasoning.

But what you fail to realize is that what makes our personalities is only a list of chemical reactions that are recorded as "right" and "wrong".

We have no reason to be sentient, as every other creature in the world still has not. But we are, if that reason is an object of defection, is a different subject.

>>1283124
let's dive.