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>[R.] reads something from Herr v. Hagen's book, I note in it the quotation from Nietzsche and have to acknowledge in tears what we have lost in him.
- Cosima diary entry 10/01/79

>Edmund von Hagen, Richard Wagner als Dichter in der zweiten Scene des Rheingold. München: Kaiser, 1879. Hagen quotes twice from Nietzsche's Richard Wagner in Bayreuth. The Hagen citations (the second in which he paraphrases Nietzsche) appear on pages XVIII-XIX, and page 36.
>Pages XVIII-XIX: "Professor Friedrich Nietzsche, with regard to the "Ring of the Nibelung," therefore has every right to ask the generations of people living today: "[And now ask yourselves, you generations of people living today!] Was this created for you? Do you have the courage to point to the stars in the entire firmament of beauty and goodness and say: it is our life that Wagner has set among the stars? Where are the people among you who are able to interpret the divine image of Wotan according to their own life and who themselves grow ever greater the more they, like him, withdraw? Which of you will renounce power, knowing and experiencing that power is evil. [Probably influenced by Jacob Burckhardt. See KGW IV/4, p. 159.] Where are those who, like Brünnhilde, relinquish their knowledge out of love and yet ultimately learn from their life the most supreme knowledge: Sorrowful love / Deepest suffering / Opened my eyes. [A line spoken by Brunhilde that Wagner removed from the concluding scene of Gotterdammerung. See KGW IV/4, p. 159.] And where are the free, fearless ones, those who in innocent selfhood grow and blossom out of themselves, the Siegfrieds among you? Anyone who asks thus and asks in vain will have to look towards the future; and if his gaze should discover somewhere in the distance precisely that "folk" who can discern their own history in the signs of Wagnerian art, then he will ultimately understand what Wagner will be for this folk:– something that he cannot be to all of us, namely not the seer of the future, as he would perhaps like to appear to us, but the interpreter and transfigurer of the past." [A preliminary draft of this paragraph by Nietzsche has a different ending: "For us he is the seer and guide: for people of the future he will be the interpreter of the past. Simplifier of history."]
>Page 36: "Then finally Wotan is disgusted by the power for which he thirsted, but which contains evil in its source. His will breaks, he himself longs for the ending that threatens him." Von Hagen paraphrases Nietzsche's Richard Wagner in Bayreuth: "Then finally power disgusts him, which bears evil and bondage in its womb, his will breaks, he himself longs for the ending that threatens him from afar."

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>HUUUURRRRRR
>Alright Freddie, "Fuck Jews."

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Ok, but i'm asking more about tampering with his stuff. Not just organizing it like Tolkien's son

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