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I want to learn about Burkean conservatism. Where should I start?

Edmund Burke is overrated.

Burke's defense of monarchy is literally "you're saying that England has had an illegitimate government for hundreds of years? That the authority of every king/queen has rested on illegitimate foundations? Really? Really?". Why do people hold him up as a great thinker? His entire defense of the status quo's legitimacy is "it's right because it exists".

Some of what he says in Reflections is good but his thinking in regards to the foundations of government are awful.

>Hereditary monarchy is okay because it just is, okay???

What are some books that are under 200 pages but cool as fuck sounding like Burke's A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful or Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals

What are some of the major works of Conservative philosophy and are they still worth reading today?

Are there any reputable modern conservative writers?

Burke, Scrton, Eliot, Arnold, Chesterton, Carlyle, Maistre, MacIntyre. Who else should I add?

Literally Edmund Burke. He was a Whig, the "left-wing" party of Enlightenment-era Britain. Yet today he's considered the founder of modern conservatism.

Burke, Carlyle, Eliot, Arnold, Chesterton, Scruton. Who else should I add?

Are there any respectable conservative books?

>>15540672
Not him, but I've read Burke, and the more right-wing you are, the more Burke starts to come off as a bit schizophrenic. Burke's denunciation of the French Revolution rings much more hollow when you find out that he supported the overthrow of the Stuarts in the Glorious Revolution. What makes the English Revolution acceptable, but not the French Revolution, if their only difference is degrees? Burke would probably say it was "common sense," like >>15540619 says.

Between the two of them I've always liked Samuel Johnson over Burke. Unlike Burke, Johnson opposed the English Revolution and always had Jacobite leanings, despite not being a Catholic himself. Johnson was also strongly opposed to the American Revolution and thought it was totally unjustified.

There's a reason Burke is considered the father of "Conservatism" rather than being considered a reactionary like De Maistre. Burke, and the conservative ideal he founds, is always trying to have it both ways. He wants SOME change, but not too much change, and his grounds for accepting some revolutions but not others aren't really clearly defined.

He's undoubtedly brilliant, though. He's just caught up in his own contradictions.

Are there any books I can read about how we need to return to small communities of like minded people and change what our priorities are in life?

this nerd i guess. Thomas Paine kinda spanked him, but if you like anti-revolutionary rhetoric Burke might be your fella

>The right can’t thi-

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Now look here mister you're gonna read pope and you're gonna like it!

>>12989796
No wonder: read up on the French Revolution and what it did to the once prosperous country of France.

Read Edmund Burke. Everyone, including butterfly, read Edmund Burke. France used to believe in God too.

For me, it’s Edmund Burke

Does lit feel like it doesn’t have the direction it used to? That its consensus frequently isn’t unanimous? Isn’t this inherently a better state of the board than it used to be? Isn’t it a good thing that it doesn’t have a 100% unanimous consensus on all issues?

Does it have anything to do with the recent trend of religious faith

Argue with the king

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>>11429056
To this

ITT post what you’re currently reading and what you’ll be reading next and discuss

Currently:
Seventh book of Pappus’ Collections
Keynes’ General Theory
Ptolemy’s Almagest
Burke’s Reflections on the Revolution in France
Proclus’ Commentary on the First Book of Euclid’s Elements

Next:
Al- Khwarizmi’s Compendious Book On Calculation by Completion and Balancing
Hayek’s Road to Serfdom
Ibn Al-Haytham’s Configuration of the World
Alexis De Tocqueville’s Democracy In America
Aristotle’s Organon

Pappus can get fairly difficult depending on what problems he is dealing with, and I’ve been enjoying Keynes chapter on elasticity. I’m looking forward to starting pic related sometime tonight most likely.

Where should one start with Edmund Burke's work?

I've been told he's one of the greatest traditionalists

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Works_by_Edmund_Burke