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>>20825096
The only correct interpretation of Scripture comes from the consensus of the saints, tradition and holy fathers of rhe church. Sola scriptura is literally one of the worst heresies.

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>becomes human
>drops timeless wisdom
>dies for you
>invades Hades and smashes the gates and chains holding the dead
>rises again
>ascends into heaven
>sends the Spirit
What a bro, honestly

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Every atonement theory is basically right in some way. When we fell into the state of sin, corruption and death, there was an infinite gap between us and God, essentially. This was contrary to God’s purpose, and the sentence was just as well, and could not be satisfied by humans. So the Father sent the Son, and the Son assumed human nature and united His divinity and humanity within one person, recapitulating and redeeming every stage of human life, living a perfect and sinless life, and then dying on the cross for the purposes of satisfying divine justice, undergoing death, destroying death, ransoming humanity from its clutches and rising up on the third day. Christ thereby opened up to us the way to divinization, i.e. partaking in the divine nature, allowing us to conform to the image of Christ, to become sons of God and co-heirs with Christ by grace. We were redeemed, reconciled, saved, and allowed the possibility of closer communion than ever before. To top it off, it was a beautiful display of God’s mercy, love and compassion towards mankind. I feel thankful even typing this.

The question is less ‘what did He do?’ and more ‘what didn’t He do?’

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How do bugmen explain the prophecies which predict His coming and the resurrection that followed His death?

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>>19453876
Then he ascended into heaven. I’m not denying that he was divine in these accounts, I was merely supplementing what was already said with the important reminder that he was not just some spiritual being, but explictly risen bodily.

>>19453877
I don’t believe because of miracles. Those are really only valuable for the people who witnessed the healings and events firsthand. Very good arguments can be made for the resurrection though: >>19453622 and >>19453630 among the foremost. This is not even to mention the prophetic dimension of the Bible (Daniel 9.24-27, etc) which is present in no other religious tradition

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>Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good;
for his steadfast love endures forever!

>Let Israel say,
>“His steadfast love endures forever.”
>Let the house of Aaron say,
>“His steadfast love endures forever.”
>Let those who fear the LORD say,
>“His steadfast love endures forever.”

>Out of my distress I called on the LORD;
>the LORD answered me and set me free.
>The LORD is on my side; I will not fear.
>What can man do to me?
>The LORD is on my side as my helper;
>I shall look in triumph on those who hate me.

>It is better to take refuge in the LORD
>than to trust in man.
>It is better to take refuge in the LORD
>than to trust in princes.

>All nations surrounded me;
>in the name of the LORD I cut them off!
>They surrounded me, surrounded me on every >side;
>in the name of the LORD I cut them off!
>They surrounded me like bees;
>they went out like a fire among thorns;
>in the name of the LORD I cut them off!
>I was pushed hard,a so that I was falling,
>but the LORD helped me.

>The LORD is my strength and my song;
>he has become my salvation.
>Glad songs of salvation
>are in the tents of the righteous:
>“The right hand of the LORD does valiantly,
>the right hand of the LORD exalts,
>the right hand of the LORD does valiantly!”

>I shall not die, but I shall live,
>and recount the deeds of the LORD.
>The LORD has disciplined me severely,
>but he has not given me over to death.

>Open to me the gates of righteousness,
>that I may enter through them
>and give thanks to the LORD.
>This is the gate of the LORD;
>the righteous shall enter through it.
>I thank you that you have answered me
>and have become my salvation.
>The stone that the builders rejected
>has become the cornerstone.
>This is the LORD’s doing;
>it is marvelous in our eyes.
>This is the day that the LORD has made;
>let us rejoice and be glad in it.

>Save us, we pray, O LORD!
>O LORD, we pray, give us success!

>Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD!
>We bless you from the house of the LORD.
>The LORD is God,
>and he has made his light to shine upon us.
Bind the festal sacrifice with cords,
up to the horns of the altar!

>You are my God, and I will give thanks to you;
you are my God; I will extol you.
>Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good;
for his steadfast love endures forever!

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>>19395645
The Holy Bible

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>>19389980
It still works out. The ungodly men who are speaking in this section of course say “Let’s test if his words are true. Let’s test what will happen at the end of his life. For if the righteous man is God’s son, He will uphold him, and He will deliver him out of the hand of his adversaries”. We have a parallel with the Gospels here, namely Matthew 27:43, where Jesus is mocked at the cross
>He trusted in God, let Him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
The men in whose mouths the words are put in Wisdom of Solomon 2 aren’t expecting that the righteous man *will* be delivered from God, because they have no respect or reverence for God or the ways of the righteous man. In the same way, the Romans and Pharisees did not believe Jesus to be the Christ, and mocked his seeming unability to stop what was happening. Chapter 3 of Wisdom indicates how to the ungodly the killing of the righteous martyr there is no victory for the ungodly:
>But the souls of the righteous are in the Hand of God. And no torture will ever touch them. In the eyes of the undiscerning they seem to have died, And their departure was considered to be misfortune. But they are at peace. For though in man’s view they were punished, Their hope is full of immortality. Though chastened in a few things, Great kindness will be shown them. For God tested them and found them worthy of Himself. He tested them like gold in a furnace And accepted them as a whole burnt offering. In the time of their visitation they will shine forth And they will run about like sparks through straw. They will judge nations and rule over peoples And the Lord shall reign over them unto the ages. Those who trhst in Him will understand truth, And the faithful shall continue with Him in love, Because grace and mercy are upon His elect.
If this is true for the martyrs, how much more so for the prefiguration of Christ in Wisdom of Solomon 2, who is the firstfruits of the dead.

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