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If you read the church fathers, you are led to a moderate catholic/orthodox position. Real presence but not transubstantiation. Mysticism but not weird hesychasm/Palamism. Veneration of the theotokos but not mediatrix bullshit. Petrine primacy but not ultramontanism.

At the same time, the fathers teach salvation by faith rather than works (so point for the protestants) although they simultaneously teach regeneration by baptism, seeing no contradiction.

The problem is finding a church that consistently and prominently teaches the above positions that we can identify as patristic. Neither the RC nor Orthodox nor any prot cheetah that I know does. Compromises and humility are in order, and respect for those who make a different choice.

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