/lit/ - Literature

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>>10051656

shes fucking unreal. im marrying israeli.

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So the biggest issue that I have problem with is about gender. Especially the whole trans/pansexual stuff happening these days.

I had an argument with a liberal about gay marriage. My position was: I don't care what 2 people do behind closed doors, but the moment you start asking for social and legal sanction for the relationship(aka a marriage), it no longer remains your personal issue.

"Transgenderism" is a mental illness since it is literally the impulse to mutilate your own body. It is called body dysphoria, and was treated as such a few decades back. Only because of political pressure was it declassified as a mental illness. Trans people are mentally ill and need to treated as such, and "sex change surgeries" banned.

The liberal girl I was arguing with replied that by calling it mental illness I was forcing my subjectivity upon them. I need to account that not everyone sees the world in the same terms and these people have a consciousness where they don't identify as the gender they are assigned at birth, and calling it an illness is insensitive.

The debate moved from there to how gender and sex are related. Now I understand the difference between the two, but I do not believe that gender is completely arbitrary and has no root in biological sex whatsoever. Gender roles exist for a reason, which is the biological differences between sexes.

She then started to cite Butler and argue that even sex is a cultural construct and science is shaped by our biases, so it be open to questioning.

The crazy thing is, this isn't even some radical crazy SJW I am talking about. This is a girl in my English class, pretty smart, A+ student.