/lit/ - Literature

>>4783902


look up alasdair macintyre

>>4773051


virtue uber alles, it can do what the others do better, and can do what the others cant

>>4747890


pretty much all of it is gold.

i like politics, ethics, and poetics the best. also check out the aquinian commentaries (who sought to 'rescue' aristotle from what he saw as misuse and abuse by the parisian school of the time)

>>4725212


because im on the way to virtuous eudaimonia

>>4707744


you'll wish you had more virtue when im hooking you in de gabber cheeky cunt.

>>4687228


if they didint find it 'pleasing' in some sense, they would not do it. youre mind-fucked by enlightenment modes of thinking vis ethics (ie, the only way to be 'truly' good/ethical is to do a thing in spite of ones sentiment [no this does not necessarily imply vulgar egoism]).

people have a will-to-right, they can indeed do a thing in spite of devalidation, negative sentiment, or capital deprivation, *if they are convinced as to its veracity/righteousness/superiority*, thus routing it through the existential impulse to be *right* above all (example par excellence, anti-natalists).

>>4683298


fun fact, plato wrote his 'laws' after his experience with d2, i consider it his superior work in terms of political philosophy vs the republic.

aristoteles uber alles tho.

"All philosophy starts from and returns to man" (Leo Strauss)

You should deal first of all with those Aristotelian writings that are most relevant to life, which is to say - your life. His doctrines of N.Ethics, Politics, Rhetoric, and Poetics are complete enough in themselves so that you can understand them without first going through the Organon.

That being said, Organon and his "physical" writings (including De Anima) are certainly worth the while, but not as an entry point to Aristotle. A certain expertise in Aristotle is necessary to get just what he´s talking about, and reading his "political" writings is a good way to get this expertise.

You should also consider checking Heidegger´s interpretations of Aristotle for the "physical" writings, if these are accessible to you.

>>3870358
>everyone who wants this can go to intellectual island
More like "everyone who wants this will live a frustrated and empty life". That´s what Bernard did, and he would have kept on with it forever, hadn´t it been for his accidental discovery of John.

>>3870363
>comfort is a shitty goal in comparison to some possible thing of which you have no idea
Oh, I have an idea of it. The joys of reading and understanding the works of the greatest thinkers are very real, and much better than anything else I have experienced. This is what I meant with the "philosophic life": that the mere search for the truly good life is much better (even in terms of pleasure) than the faux-ideal of the comfortable life.

>We cannot exert our understanding without from time to time understanding something of importance; and this act of understanding may be accompanied by the awareness of our understanding, by the understanding of understanding, by noesis noeseos, and this is so high, so pure, so noble an experience that Aristotle could ascribe it to his God.

>>3779881
>>3779887

Time to give some substance to this thread:

http://www.ditext.com/strauss/liberal.html

>>3620665
Oh, fuck the modern "scientific" historians. They´re petty twats who think that because they and everyone they know are petty twats, everyone ever was a petty twat too and if anyone - like Plutarch - writes about genuinely great men, he´s simply a petty twat too pretentious to acknowledge being a petty twat. So they´re not just petty twats, they also think they´re better than everyone who didn´t debase himself by openly declaring himself a petty twat.
/rant.

tl;dr Plutarch all day erryday.

>>3557394
>implying it is the purpose of philosophy to find out "the meaning of existence"
>implying the central question of philosophy is not the question of the good life

Stay plebby, pleb.

>>3550595
>tfw being a native speaker of a heavily inflected language
>the world of languages is my oyster

>>3546878
Well, that's nice. Good for him.