/lit/ - Literature

>Greeks were a bunch of faggots
Why would I start with them?

Were ancient greek heroes like achilles and heracles gay? homosexuality was a thing in ancient greece.

Is true love able to exist only between two men?

I challenge you /lit/. Write a sex scene, it can be from any era or period in history. No cheap /b/ tier stuff, make it literary.

>>10222171
It would be pretty unfair and biased to form a definite opinion on the subject purely based on my example, so rest assured I havent done that. All I wanted to do was to bring fowards an actual example where an admiration of a young boys beauty warranted "no-homo but"

The fact is, they had a concept of Erastes (in my example the older man) and Eromenos (young Socrates). These relationships played a role in the Classical Greek social and educational system, had its own complex social-sexual etiquette and was an important social institution among the upper classes.

Most people take issue with calling this homosexuality as that in itself is a concept which was formed in Gothic Europe. Yes, we call 2. men in an intimate relationship homosexual, but they didnt. Did they take part in actions which we would concider homosexual? Yes. Was it normal for them? In certain aspects of the society, yes. It's a very interesting topic and I'm looking for books about the subject which don't put me on FBI watchlist.

>>7955153
There's no getting around the fact that the idea of degeneracy changes from place to place and time to time, to the degree that people who may seem immoral to modern people were not considered immoral in their own time. The obvious example is pederasty. Fine, perhaps even beautiful, as long as there was not a financial aspect to it.