/lit/ - Literature

>>13588971
>MUH JOOZ
>true chads
You dumb niggers have to corrupt real men because you had no heroes. Just dumb nigger-tier retards who couldn't take on 40 men with half the army.
If you're going to be a martial fetishist then you should at least pretend to be good at it.

>>13249264
>MUH KD
Nazifag cope.
40 men held off the majority of Germans in Stalingrad for nearly a week.
Americans didn't do shit. 85% of economic support only came after Stalingrad had been secured.
Your KD doesn't matter if you're not taking objectives, faggot. The Nazis worshipped the martial spirit and ended up the joke of military history. Worst operations and strategy ever.

>>13177358
>gets btfo by nationalist digits
>still proceeds to argue
Simply because some people continue to believe in nationalism doesn't mean it remains as a form of the world, or at least one which can establish dominion within the present telluric laws. The Great War was the completion through material force of what had long been established in law: a universal state without dominion.

Those who continued to believe in the potential for nationalism were foolish, or perhaps betrayed by their sorrow. One can have sympathy for them but it was clear that the old world was dying well before the war, and every aspect remaining would be destroyed in the material clash. One might even say that the mutual slaughter was simply a sacrifice of that which was already being destroyed in the metaphysical and hidden realms.

Junger realised this, many in the adjacent circles did not. The hardened foolishness of the National Socialist regime was an element of nationalist death, striving to keep its spirit alive where it was impossible - hence all of the images of death, and not just at an aesthetic level.

None of this is to cast judgement upon nationalism, its potential virtues or otherwise. It is simply a recognition of fate, and having the humility to recognise what is possible, what is necessary, what we can fight against and what we cannot. The Romans called this gravitas, and if anyone should have recognised it then perhaps it was those men who made runes out of eagles. Given that they did not, we must conclude they were lacking in the eagle's spirit.

Those who denied the end of the old world existed in a dead realm and tried to drag everyone else down into it. One can even see that all of the potential lessons learned in the First War were abandoned, even thwarted, in the Second. And, as Junger says, it was entirely conservative forces that were to blame.

What was necessary for German victory was, first of all, to survive, and then ease its way into the continental redivision. People did not even want war, and the land taken in the first movements of the Second War was a gift - one which should have been graciously accepted, and accounted for along with a fateful sovereignty which followed the First War and German occupation. If liberalism showed weakness then it was necessary to not rouse the dragon from its slumber. Hitler, in his foolishly skeletal authority and incompetent military strategy, betrayed everything that was necessary for the survival of Germany as a state.

After the funeral procession of nationalists it is only luck that anything of Germany remains. But if you disagree, feel free to point out a single nationalist state that remained after the Wars.

As a secondary argument, Schmitt's theory of the partisan proves that nationalism only survived as an oppositional force, as a skeletal formation of states under threat. It was no longer an active or creative force after the First World War.

>>13165678
Darwinism is a leftist/progressive idea. It is the politics of liberalism set against nature as a founding myth. That you adopt these ideas without question is telling.
As for the other part, you are just repeating what I said in a dumbed down and mechanistic form, then rejecting it. Your heroes lost the war, possibly because of their own adoption of Jewish traits.
This kills the poltard.

>>12881441
lmao. Hitler was a degenerate leading a group of even more disgusting degenerates.
And
>close
lmao