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This debate has taken the wrong turn early on.

"Free will" is free from what?

It's as if people saw themselves as something apart from the world around them. It's not that there are things that determine how you'll act, they are part of yourself. Our will most certainly exist and the source of it is whatever you call "I". This is neither free nor captive of anything, for it is the culmination of all else, an expression of the universe around us. And from then on, it is in our hands to make the choices and engage in the game.

What is there to determine the way the universe behaves?

Laws? The laws comes later, they are rationalizations of what we see on how the universe behaves and nothing can see the whole from inside of it to tell. The universe neither obeys nor commands, it is as it is. Determinism is an abstraction.

We may be locked up inside several layers of cages: our history, our society, our bodies. But freedom must not be confused as from being separate from the rest of reality, for the universe is not a cage. Through enhanced consciousness we may be aware of some of these shackles and use our will to go against the odds and seek freedom from them. But the goal is not to seek freedom from the universe itself, as much as meaningless as it is to escape reality. Instead, it is about resonating with the rest of the universe on a more essential level, to realize that you are part of it. Neither to obey or command and to release yourself from the prison of this idea.

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>>3513385
>(1)Everything that is has a cause
I'm not claiming that, in fact it's likely there is one without a cause, but by probability ours is unlikely to be that one.

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