/lit/ - Literature

>>17060658
*blocks your path*

>>15453660

gödel and cantor, two of the greatest mathematician-logicians of the last 150 years (the others are hilbert, most probably an atheist, and frege, a protestant, at least nominally), gödel and cantor, i was saying, believed in god.
how do militant atheists cope with it?

Did he refute materialism?

So you're telling me if I construct a system from axioms which are, by definition, true (like 1 + 1 = 2) and I use the laws of that system to create other assertions (like 2 - 1 = 1), those assertions could be unprovable or contradictory?

And there's no way around this?

So first Wittgenstein ends philosophy with "whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent" then this guy tells that even in mathematics we can't speak with any certainty.

Where does that leave us?

Why do you post about Jews so much, /lit/?

Gödel left in his papers a fourteen-point outline of his philosophical beliefs, that are dated around 1960. They show his deep belief in the rational structure of the world. Here are his 14 points:

1 The world is rational.
2 Human reason can, in principle, be developed more highly (through certain techniques).
3 There are systematic methods for the solution of all problems (also art, etc.).
4 There are other worlds and rational beings of a different and higher kind.
5 The world in which we live is not the only one in which we shall live or have lived.
6 There is incomparably more knowable a priori than is currently known.
7 The development of human thought since the Renaissance is thoroughly intelligible (durchaus einsichtige).
8 Reason in mankind will be developed in every direction.
9 Formal rights comprise a real science.
10 Materialism is false.
11 The higher beings are connected to the others by analogy, not by composition.
12 Concepts have an objective existence.
13 There is a scientific (exact) philosophy and theology, which deals with concepts of the highest abstractness; and this is also most highly fruitful for science.
14 Religions are, for the most part, bad– but religion is not.

Do you agree with him. Well you should, as he was filthy platonism, and Plato is pretty big on this board