/lit/ - Literature

Fellow /pol/sters, I want you to listen carefully and in an unbiased manner.
Imagine if Native Americans decided to revolt against White America. They say that North America is their rightful homeland, that they deserve to possess their country and that Whites are invaders. They receive military funding from South America, and using missiles they destroy hospitals, homes, and nurseries, and they kill many "white invaders." Would you say that they are in the wrong? It IS their homeland. They neither chose to be born in America, nor did Whites choose to be born in America. They both want to live, but who would you say is doing more evil?
This is very similar to the case in Israel, except I would be tempted to say that Jews have a greater claim to their territory; Jews don't have a homeland other than Israel. Not only this, but I would say that Jews are typically snobby and arrogant, whereas the Palestinians killing innocent Jews are downright violent. None of this absolves Jews of their current crimes against native populations in the US and Europe, but if you want to criticize Israel, you will be forced to criticize your own colonial past. That is, if you have even a shred of ideological consistency.
That doesn't mean you should simp for Jews. Certainly the ones in your own lands criticizing YOU and asking that YOU give up YOUR land should be criticized and/or expelled, but you shouldn't have a blind hatred for all things Jewish. Jews are people and they aren't inherently evil. Be reasonable, be kind, love your own people, and love your enemies (even if they're Jews), but don't be afraid to fight back against them if it means saving your own. Just don't be an angry little meme kid and I think things will work out alright.

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At the very least, it gives Israelis an out. Look at it from their perspective: They're being demographically replaced, their people are being brutalized by Palestinians (and they're doing some brutalizing back), and no matter where they turn they're going to get fucked. International finance wants to homogenize the world, liberals have a hatred for Israel's opposition to Palestine and ethnocentrism, and conservatives would quickly turn on them if they took things too far to save their people. Do they hold on to an 80 year old grudge and let their people slowly disappear, or do they put aside their differences and realize that fundamentally, both the European and Israeli Right want the same things: Peace and security for their people, culture, and futures.
There isn't really a strategic downside to support for Israel so long as you don't monetarily simp for them for nothing in return. If you are in vocal support of Israel, and Israel returns the favor, then things can work from there. Tit-for-tat. You don't need to simp for Jews.

What is the value of debate, in itself? Should we not just act in praxis, toward social utopia?