/lit/ - Literature

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But man isn't disappearing tomorrow. What I meant is along the lines of "there is nothing to go back to". Think about Modern civilization as an accelerating outcome from some initial conditions of the system, or maybe as a huge shock on the ecological time series of sustainability that includes events like super volcanoes eruptions and meteorites. The point is that we are still part of the natural system rather than being opposed to it, and this perspective independent of man-as-other opens the door to more applicable solutions than "tear it all down". Or at least possible solutions that need to be tried before we tear it all down. We have to try.
I still think there's something valuable in being the only species we know of that can carry out the scientific method and act as a scholar for this insane, beautiful world, but maybe I'm just a naive humanist and tech cuck. I would be off in the mountains with the monks if I thought there was no chance of this planet pulling through (though maybe that will still happen)
>They'd just steal everything and wouldn't give a shit about the sustainability of something they couldn't sustain anyway.
We pull off large scale projects when profit is on the line. All the researchers that I look up to realize this and try to find a way to fit their morally necessary projects within a economic framework, albeit with a large lag between innovation and industry uptake. You are right that making it past the next 200 years is going to take some serious re-tooling of our value systems.
>People born and raised in the system will put up with A LOT before they do anything truly disobedient.
It has been really interesting reading the news everyday and seeing how hard the CBC manufactures consent against a group (young men who probably don't own property) they think is a threat to the state. This country has benefitted from long term stability and now it is facing some actual problems. They gave much less attention and negative press towards first nations protesting against pipelines a year ago. Our elites see them as pets to be farmed for social points when needed and not a serious threat to their banana republic. The bold two-faced shit makes me depressed.