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why is he still talked about, 2 millennia after his death?

Reading Karl Popper's Open Society really showed how much of an angry, dishonest, bitter proto-fascist chud he was.
Why does anyone still take him seriously?
Plato has no place in a modern humanitarian society.

Was Plato Balkan? If so, this means that the Greeks residing in the European part of Greece had created some First literature that had inspired the world.

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You can try to answer our questions as many times as you faggots want it doesn't matter to me because Plato was right, and it's impossible for us to attain knowledge through the world perceived by the sense

You can try to answer our questions as many times you faggots as you want it doesn't matter to me because Plato was right, and it's impossible for us to attain knowledge through the world perceived by the senses

What is the best book in your opinion by Plato?

The /lit/ wiki only links a webarchive page, did the anon delete the file? If so, does someone have the backup links to the marxism/continental/analytic philosophy section at the end of the document?

>thats nice but I wrote Socrates as a chad and you as an idiot so you lose
Holy shit I swear this fucking faggot pseud is infuriating, the fact that he had a monumental influence on the way we think is a good reason to just reset civilization, start over and skip the whole idealism shit straight into Aristotle.

How do I go about explaining how I cracked the code of reality and ended philosophy?

Plato, Marx and Heidegger can be all connected. Hegel can be crucially expanded. Human life has only 1 fate.

https://s[insert "o"]yjak.party/onions//res/897106.html

Why would one of the greatest philosophers of all just make up a fantasy, utopian island and not tell anyone?

>and my Forms

>>18672018
How about you shove that rhetoric up your ass, faggot.

Any Greek speakers here? What is the Greek word Plato uses in the Republic for "the Good" as in the form of the good?

Plato. Reading The Symposium always brings a smile to my face and makes me feel warm.

Did he misunderstand or subvert Heraclitus? How do you take Heraclitus's notion of becoming, which flattens and forbids any notion of a realm of being existing alongside and separate from it, and derive the forms from it? Was it Socrates' influence on Plato that caused this apparent gap in reason?

How much Plato do philosophy students actually read? The major dialogues like Euthyphro, Apology, Crito and Republic? Just some secondary literature? His complete works?

>turns every argument into word games about epistemology

He was unironically right. Fuck Socrates.

>SOCRATES: Would you say a craftsman works his materials without knowledge?
>LIBERAL: No, that would be absurd.
SOCRATES: So it is understood that a craftsman has the knowledge of crafting?
>LIBERAL: So it seems.
>SOCRATES: What sort of knowledge? For if the craftsman had to start developing a new knowledge out of nothing every time he's engaged in one of his projects, would you say he is in possession of the knowledge of crafting?
>LIBERAL: No, he wouldn't be in possession of any knowledge indeed.
>SOCRATES: So it would be necessary for him to work on the application of an already known knowledge?
>LIBERAL: Yes.
>SOCRATES: And is this knowledge based on previous knowledge? We already said that if he had to learn his knowledge from the beginning is the same as having no knowledge at all.
>LIBERAL: I guess so, Socrates.
SOCRATES: And what about the previous knowledge? Wouldn't it be based on previous knowledge, and so on?
>LIBERAL: Yes.
SOCRATES: Therefore, my dear Liberal, as you see the craftsman has a technique based on the repetition of old knowledge.
>LIBERAL: Well yes, he has developed a technique for his crafting.
>SOCRATES: Would you say he repeats the wrong knowledge? Or was he trained on the wrong technique?
>LIBERAL: That doesn't seem the case. He would repeat what has guaranteed him success in the past I guess.
>SOCRATES: So you're saying his technique gathers knowledge that has been proven successful and disregards useless knowledge?
>LIBERAL: That's what I'm saying.
>SOCRATES: Is his technique what guarantees him a high rate of success?
>LIBERAL: Yes.

>>15294938
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0168%3Abook%3D5%3Asection%3D472d
Honestly go ahead and read all of Book V.

>>14959188
What about being an ecologist makes you think you should be recommended different philosophers than, say, a musician or a physicist or anyone else? Do you listen to special ecologist music? Do you ask for physics textbooks specially catered to ecologists? When you order your food at a restaurant, do you make sure to tell the waiter to let the chef know that, yes, they are cooking for an ecologist and that you would like the sort of dish an ecologist might like? For pity's sake, man--you are so dumb you ought to start with the basics before you are ready for the ecologist's philosophers. Maybe read Plato again.

Just look at the obscenity on this rake. Would you leave this man alone with your children? With your precious daughters?

>>14923551
>The plague of all philosophy is the retarded utterance that neoplatonism is monism

Neoplatonism IS monism according to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article on Neoplatonism written by the scholar Christian Wildberg at Princeton

>"Neoplatonic philosophy is a strict form of principle-monism that strives to understand everything on the basis of a single cause that they considered divine, and indiscriminately referred to as “the First”, “the One”, or “the Good”."

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/neoplatonism/


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