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>>18066931
>until recently christianity...
Yes, but for more or less 400 years christianity produced a lot as a persecuted group under pagans. I have no idea what your point is here.

>see the book in the OP
I have read a few passages and she lies, deforms reality and invents things. A utterly unreliable source. If you care for rigorous study I recommend reading pic related, a serious study with purely archeological data.

>Tell that to the ancient christians
Again, read pic related and you'll see how pagans themselves abandoned temples, used them as prostitution houses, how christians respected laws and used the temples only after decree liberating.

>>18066951
>That's why they calll all other spirit, poetic, religious, sacred cultures "Fake".
Have you read any christian theological work? Yeah of course not. Read Basil, Nyssa, Maximus, Augustine, Boethius, Eriugena, Clement, Origen. Many Fathers have repeated how pagans had good and true things in their teachings. As any religion, these have also a glimpse of the truth, of the Sacred, but they all fall short because like Assmann himself acknowledges they are all ''religions'', that is, purely worldly religions. It is with Christianity that religion becomes truly spiritual, truly transcendent to the world, this is why he thinks it falls into ''counter-religion'' because it is in the sense that it separates from the world, from the purely political, from the cycle of the expiatory mechanism. Read Girard.

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>>15816504
>one-sided narrative skipping holistic account
>detailed and historical
now i am sure i am dealing with someone dishonest, but let's try. also i was at work so i couldn't extend on my post.

>As a result of recent work, it can be stated with confidence that temples were neither widely converted into churches nor widely demolished in Late Antiquity. …. In his Empire-wide study, Bayliss located only 43 cases [of desacralisation or active architectural destruction of temples] of which a mere 4 were archaeologically confirmed.

>The pagans, amazed at so unexpected an exposure, could not suffer it in silence, but conspired together to attack the Christians. They killed many of the Christians, wounded others, and seized the Serapeum, a temple which was conspicuous for beauty and vastness and which was seated on an eminence. This they converted into a temporary citadel; and hither they conveyed many of the Christians, put them to the torture, and compelled them to offer sacrifice. Those who refused compliance were crucified, had both legs broken, or were put to death in some cruel manner.

I will not extend myself on the latter part of my post since all of that is self-evident.
Start reading pic related if you actually cares about truth.

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>>15475490
>We have sources from all over the world of Christians committing acts of vandalism
numerous examples of statues from Ancient Rome that were vandalised by Christians

I think you should read more.

>As a result of recent work, it can be stated with confidence that temples were neither widely converted into churches nor widely demolished in Late Antiquity. …. In his Empire-wide study, Bayliss located only 43 cases [of desacralisation or active architectural destruction of temples] of which a mere 4 were archaeologically confirmed.

What? Christians not only didn't destroyed temples and artifacts but even preserved it??
Read pic related.

>Christian sources deny accountability, Pagan sources blame Christians.
The difference is that there are sources which account the whole development of events. We are always told that Hypatia was killed by a mob of christians. What was behind it is always concealed.

You say that because what you hear (ie that christians are evil and killed many pagans) you can blame christians for what they didn't do.
I don't want to advance discussion in these matters with someone like you, I'm sorry.

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