/lit/ - Literature

>>23254135
>claim Goethe was a Protestant or something.

spiritually, yes. any sort of rebellion against medieval thinking in western civilization (including the ideologies that make this conversation both technologically and legally possible) ultimately derive from protestantism

any insightful thinker past Luther is spiritually protestant

Justin Martyr (100-165 AD)
>Mocks pagans in his First Apology for attempting to depict God, who has “ineffable glory and form” with “things that are corruptible” (chapter 9)
>Chapter 95 of the Dialogue with Trypho mentions that the bronze serpent was an apparent contradiction of the commandment against images, says it was a sign [of Christ]
>Quotes Sophocles, a Greek dramatist in his ‘Hortatory Address to the Greeks’ on the foolishness of ‘Images of the gods in stone and wood’
>Quotes the Sibyl [Pagan prophetess] to demonstrate that “images and figures of dead men” is straying “from the Immortal’s ways”

Aristides (2nd century)
> “But the Christians, O King, while they went about and made search, have found the truth; and as we learned from their writings, they have come nearer to truth and genuine knowledge than the rest of the nations… they do not worship idols made in the image of man” (Apology of Aristides 15)

Origen of Alexandria (c. 185 - c. 253 AD)
> In Contra Celsum Origen repeatedly mentions that Christians have a “contempt for idols, and images of all kinds”
> Chapter 8 of Book V has Celsus say that Jews bow to angels and heaven, but Origen says this is not Jewish at all, but a transgression of God’s law and the prophets. Same for Christians.
> In Book VI, Origen says that we are not to worship the Father with images, but “in truth”, which “came by Jesus Christ”
> In Book VII, mentions that those “taught in the school of Jesus Christ, have rejected all images and statues”