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Guénon presents the "necessity" of a worldview generally, and lists coherently what this worldview should constitute with regards to all its various aspects, essentialy guénon advocates esoterism, and points the reader in the direction which should ideally lead him to choose a more Traditional worldview.
A guénonian can become an abrahamic Christian, Muslim - maybe even Kabbalist... or non-abrahamic Hindu, Taoist, Buddhist, its unlimited so long as the religion is a more or less "tradition." the reality is that no matter what tradition the guénonian is initiated into as they will typically always maintain some belief in perennial truth.


"Another debate that still seems to go back and forth about Guenon and possibilities of a Western initiation, involves his rejection of the Christian sacraments as initiatory—the reasons for which he précised in both “Perspectives on Initiation”, and in the article “Christianity and Initiation”–but he said more than just that concerning the sacraments, which tends to get short shrift. Yes, he argued that once Christianity “exteriorized” as religion, from tariqa, the sacraments (although efficacious in the religious domain), could not in any event remain efficacious initiatically; so, although remaining beneficial to the human being in individual mode (“securing” and prolonging the human state post mortem, as opposed to possible disintegration of that state), they could not of themselves any longer take the being beyond the human state. What tends to gets ignored though, is that he added to this that they could however become initiatory, if a qualified being has the ability to “transpose” them beyond the domain of religion, in a reversal of the process leading to their exteriorization so to speak, returning them to their principle, noting “The truth is that the sacraments cannot indeed have such effects by themselves…but…the exoteric rites can, in a certain way, be transposed into another order in the sense that they will serve as a support for the initiatic work itself and that consequently their effects will no longer be limited to the exoteric order (17)”. Naturally, their use as such “supports” is contingent upon, as in the various foregoing scenarios, that the person is, in one or more of the senses outlined earlier, already an initiate."
- the second part of this paragraph is important,

Regardless I would say and Guénon wrote similarly, that Islam is perhaps the most "fool-proof" religion in the sense that it almost incessantly affirms the Oneness of God, even amongst plurality and multiplicity Oneness is almost implicit to those with Metaphysical understanding - who have undergone realisation, so even amongst the ancient what some people call mistakingly "polytheistic" religions - the ancients simply didn't require this incessant Oneness affirmation as the modern abrahamic religions do, as it was already so obvious and implicit to them.

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