/lit/ - Literature

>>19405013
>tf when you're a based homeless poster

>>19154888
Idk, bro. There's authors who dressed worse.

>>18417421
>>18418007
This is true. Look at Diogenes, who Epictetus holds up as the man who personified the telos of the stoic ideal. A philosophy that supposedly preaches limits instead promotes a sanctimonious disregard for all customs and conventions. To truly practice stoicism is to disregard all limits and subordinate the world to yourself. Control over rational judgment becomes of necessity control over the world and nature. The stoic mistake is to conflate virtue with control. It might feel cathartic to us to imagine ourselves a Diogenes, telling emperors to stand out of our sun and pranking philosophers, but nobody wants to live in a world with people shitting on the street and living in barrels.

TIL about Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea (c. 490–430 BC), who claimed that motion is nothing but an illusion. Upon hearing Zeno's arguments, Diogenes the Cynic stood up and walked away.

>socrates tier (shit tier)
Learning philosophy for academic purposes

>diogenes tier (elder god tier)
Learning philosophy to shitpost on /lit/

A barrel obviously

does he offer any valuable insight?

Why does diogenes just sound like a made up person to keep poor people happy?

anyone know anyone else modern or historical like diogenes?

>>16788133
h-heh yeah poverty has never been a virtue.

>>16243432
Pretty much every piece of fiction ever? How many stories follow the "heroes journey" arc? I knew somebody who became a chad being inspired by fucking Dragon Ball Z and wore DBZ tank tops and shit to the gym.

What I will say is that trying to read fiction to "get inspired" is on a psychological level a subtly self-deceptive avoidance tactic to avoid doing anything that will materially progress you to your goals while deluding yourself into thinking you're participating in some deep preparation. If you think "inspirational" literature will help it should be merely a minor part of your overall striving towards your goal that you set aside some time for.

Additionally we know a great deal about motivation and in large part it's grounded in having a well rounded life and general health. I've never seen any sort of research that backs the idea that readers are more motivated.

>>16248023
>I want to be inspired and to create a philosophical foundation of why I would live a certain life where I aim to be above average.

You're gonna have trouble finding a philosophical justification for shallow narcissism and if anything you should be avoiding philosophy if you want to sustain this as an ideal. The deeper you go the more you will realise that a lot of the things you only believe because of base reproductive instincts, self-preservation instincts, or because of brainwashing that's useful to society (COONSUUM/PRODOOS).

Exceptionalism is useful at achieving the reproductive act, being a rampart against getting fucked over by society, and in general fending off threats to your general quality of life. If your current level of effort is making you miserable maybe the problem is your priorities are out of whack. Rather than reading philosophy which affirms what you already think is true I would start with the Greeks and read up on the Cynics and realising the Wisdom of finding pleasure in what is provided by nature, rather than strength that will fade.