/lit/ - Literature

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>not including Debord's bulge

>>13939096
>Don't try to read Marx, dumb prole! Only experts can understand him!
Nice try, you fucking spectator.

>S-Situationists rise up

>>13412399
I really like, even though I think it might be kinda nonsense, Guy Debord's "The Society of Spectacle", it's a lovely read and also short.

end capitalism

>>12407936
> the goal is to "see reality as it truly is" or something similar, with vague allusions to the composite nature of experience making an idea of self inherently illusion.

This is because in the 1960's when eastern philosophy first made a big spash in the west (beyond a few academics who had already been studying it since the 19th century), people largely glommed onto to Buddhism because when taken as a whole it's marginally closer to the western mentality than most other eastern doctrines. Consequently, many terms used throughout the east came to acquire a distinctly Buddhist context in western parlance. The result of this is that the vast majority of people and books which talk about meditation do so in a way that either explicitly or implicitly shill Buddhist teachings about the illusion/ephemeralness/non-existence of the self/soul.

This is despite that meditation is used throughout many non-Buddhist eastern doctrines in ways that have nothing to do with the Buddhist teachings about the self. For example the pre-Buddhist Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (composed between 200-400 years before Buddha lived) mentions meditation repeatedly and says in the very first chapter "The Self alone is to be meditated upon, for in It all these become unified", similar ideas are found throughout much of Hindu literature.

>As a kind of half in half out perspectivism I have reservations about the outcome of taking an attitude of "I can see reality as it really is"and viewing identity as illusion rather than illumination. Are the ontological assumptions something I have to take part and parcel or can they be ignored?
You can ignore them if you are interested in pursuing non-Buddhist types of meditation, if these do interest you than begin to research Hindu philosophy which has the largest body of teachings and texts concerning meditation besides the Buddhists, many classic Yoga texts actually focus on various types of meditation just as much if not more than physical postures. There are also non-Buddhist/non-Hindu types but its not as common as in these two traditions.

>>12408091
This is incorrect, there are many different kinds of meditation, the word by itself does not inherently mean one of these types over another

>>12408162
The Hindus and Buddhists (not to mention all the various sub-schools and their differing opinions) would each give you a different answer

>>12404013

Friendly reminder that all these trendy political identities are just part of the spectacle

Detourn your Spectacle, bucko

>mom found my notes on the society of the spectacle

>psst... kid...
>wanna take down the society of the spectacle?

>social media analyst found my manifesto based on The Society of the Spectacle

*detours your life with a knife to the bladder*
pssh, nothing personnel

>>11526412
>muh smartphones muh consumerism
reminder that this opinion itself has already been commodified
no escaping the spectacle

>>11315548
The left should be thankful that the latest iteration of the far right is led by the least competent people on the planet

>>11128433
It probably wouldn't take more than an essay to apply the spectacle to the internet. "The Internet, through its interactivity, incorporates the self into the self-meditation of the image, thus alienating the self even from its own contemplation," or something. The situation seems pretty straightforwardly spectacular

>>10934326
>Did anyone else feel lied to watching 2049?
I did. It's pseudo-humanist spectacular garbage

>>10759470
Capitalism is a historical process. It's not like suddenly all of the things that characterize capitalism appeared out of nowhere. Capitalist tendencies like commodity fetishism began developing as long ago as Classical Greece.

I think Deobrd's division of time into "cyclical" and "irreversible" has relevance here. Pastoral nomads act in undefined time; they move from place to place without keeping track of how many times they have been there, or planning when they will return. They live, so to speak, in the present, which constantly reasserts itself through the ritual gestures and similar behaviors they perform at each given site. Their locality contains time, so to speak. The advent of agriculture created a new conception of time, and this conception of time (the cyclical) gives rise to labor. Basic human life becomes dependent on the seasons, and must conform itself to their conditions. Those who organized the farmers, the "masters," owned history as well as the portion of the harvest they appropriated. The arrogation of surplus agricultural products allowed them to live "above" cyclical time, and the greatest of them, recorded these exploits. This is the beginning of history, and the beginning of irreversible time. Those who don't need to labor materially instead labor ideally, they first create myths (prior to the advent of writing) and then histories (after) that explain and justify their position as "guaranteeing" the continuance of cyclical time, i.e. the necessity of both productive agricultural labor as well as their organization of it.

But this is a really rough paraphrase, Debord spends much more time on this in "Society of the Spectacle."

>>10736721
It's fairly simple for a native English speaker who likes to read (me). I don't think the average American could understand it well, but the average person here reads at a second grade level. Probably much less difficult than TS, significantly less difficult than Sound & the Fury, but more difficult than something like Catch 22

>>10655660
>Could the system be better? Yes, but that's no excuse to tear it down.
You see, that's exactly what I dislike about you, Petersonfags.
During the French Revolution, you would have said that there is no excuse for cutting the head of the divine king and his noble friends, and that the population should just cut back on wine and go back to work. Yet, here we are, in a world where royalty has almost no influence on what is happening in the world, and where the "free market" is the main arbiter over what is going on in our lives, and Peterson would say that is a good thing and it should stay that way.
Once again, I respect Nick Land way more than Peterson, because he is against most Enlightenment values, and think the system should be teared down in his own way. He doesn't fall in-between two chairs in an awkward way.

>The median rent is being inflated by luxury developments.
Median != average, and when it comes to economic issues, comparing medians generally mitigates these issues.
In any case, I don't know how old are you, but most of my friends in their 20s have a really time to rent an apartment. You might say that anecdotal evidence isn't worth much, and you might be right, but there is definitely a trend emerging as we can witness everyday the posts of NEETs here complaining about having difficulties to move out of their parents' homes.

>Not to mention, a rent hike is not nearly enough reason to bitch about how evil capitalism is.
Maybe for you, who probably had a comfy middle-class life. That's not my case though.

>Automation IS an issue
It shouldn't be. Humans have been creating tools to ease their workload since the dawn of times. Why is it a problem now?

>Speculate on crypto
LMAO. I enjoy the pink wojaks on /biz/, but I rather not invest the $800 I still have on my bank account in some dying Ponzi scheme, my friend.

>Life is suffering, there is a high possibility that everything is about to go to shit and you need to be strong enough as an individual that you don't fall for left or right wing collectivism once something like another recession hits. If you are a heroic individual you have a chance to survive once everything falls apart and the more people have their shit together the less likely this collapse is going to become.
What if I want everything to collapse though? I have increasingly less to lose as days go by.

>ctrl f "Debord"
>0 results

Merde vous imbeciles

>>10635096
Be careful lad, there's no breaks on the SI train