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Best translation of Plato's Republic? Google isn;t giving me all the pro's and con's.

>So, like, people like me are the smartest and we should rule over everyone, ok?

Has Glaucon's account of justice in book II ever been refuted? Is it even possible?

Honestly, has anyone even managed to refute this? This really seems like the ideal society to live in, especially when you compare it to modern degeneracy. Freedom truly does more harm than it does good. The only thing Plato forgot to mention is that it should also be an ethnostate, but other than that its absolutely perfect.

Why hasn't the society described by Plato in picrelated been tried yet? Are world leaders and politicians just too brainlet to understand Philosophy?

The closest thing to it would have been when Marcus Aurelius was ruler, but that was still nothing like the society described by Plato.

Are we likely to ever see Philosopher kings get implemented? have there been any good criticisms against it?

Will this help me in becoming a better person? I'm a 20 something year old coomer.

after I read the Republic, what should I read by Plato? I've heard the laws but that book doesn't seem as focused on philosophy

Is the Republic by Plato actually worth reading?

What's the best translation?

>Let's design the ideal city together my good friends Adimantus and Glaucon, so we can find the purest form of Justice in it and then look for it in the man.
>Oh Socrates! Good Idea
>A philosopher must take control of a government, banish all people over 10 years old from the city and then tell all the kids a big lie so they don't question their lot in life , except if the kid has some kind of deffect, in that case we kill it.
>Oh Socrates,share with us more knowledge please!
>Ban all poetry that talk about men or gods acting badly and ban pretty much all forms of music from our republic, so our citizens don't become weak and indulgent
>Yes, Socrates that must be the only way!
>Also when a guardian gives birth to a child, we take the child from her hands and we force her to feed different kids every time when she needs to relieve her breast, that way every kid has a lot of fathers and mothers
>Oh Socrates I wish I was as intelligent as you, that city is the justest of them all! No doubt!
>Also soul is inmortal , because nothing bad that affects the soul can kill it
>Yes, that's so true! This is the best day of my life, give us more of that knowledge Socrates, please, pleaseeeeee
>Dreaming about having sex with your mother is normal

What knowledge is gained from reading philosophy?

Can it be applied to every day life?

Or is it just for entertainment?

what is the best translation?

I'm interested in political philosophy, where do I go from pic related? This is what I wanted to read next, what should I add?

2-Aristotle's politics
3-Hobbes Leviathan
4- Locke's, second treatise of civil government
5- Rousseau , social contract
6- Machiavelli, the prince
7- Montesquieu , the spirit of the laws

Thank you in advance

is this a good place to start philosophy? if not where should i start?

What's the best translation of Plato's republic, in your opinion, and why?

I'm reading The Republic in English and having a really hard time with it.
I'm not sure if I'm dumb or not, but most paragraphs are really difficult to understand.
It's also very hard to follow conversations between characters because they don't use quotes.
Are there any tips for me to read it? Please note that I'm not a native English speaker. The most difficult book I have finished is Dune.