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>>20652541
But this then leads to the further paradox of what seems at times like the potentiality of supra-Islamic Sufism existing. Reputable Sufi sages, saints, theologians, scholars and poets were talking about the merger of the individual self with the Absolute Self in Advaita-Vedanta-reminiscent style, and informing you that the Sufi way has existed eternally and perennially, being the true core of every religion, a latent potentiality for the development of the human soul towards God, who shines — although often unrecognized — in the heart and soul of every human being.

You might even at this point have heard of and be interested in the paradoxically non-Muslim Sarmoun Sufis — who do not deny Islam, per se, but rather do not strictly regard themselves as merely Muslim, either, practicing and speaking more openly amongst themselves what historical Sufis have had to do more secretively, constantly having to make clear that they are not heretics against Islam, in any way out of accordance with the dogmas, and so forth (so as to avoid actual potential execution). [But do the Sarmoun Sufis actually even exist or did they ever exist except as anything more than a cult, a myth or an obfuscation created by obscure names like Gurdjieff, Idries Shah, Rafael Lefort, Ernest Scott and Omar Michael Burke, in the vein of the Theosophical Ascended Masters or Mahatmas? Is it “non-Traditional” or the “counter-initiation”?]

And all this then leads back again to the initial paradox — “Is there a Sufism beyond Islam, a potential for Zen enlightenment without being a culture-bound Buddhist, the conscious recognition of one’s unity with Brahman without being a strictly culture-bound Indian?”

And, furthermore, also to this >>20652603, where people can get outrageously and irrationally angry about people even wanting to CONSIDER and speak about things like this, since they’re perhaps even secretly furiously resentful and jealous — “Happiness and divine bliss? It doesn’t exist, chuds! If it were possible, I would be experiencing it right now. My teachers and professors would have told me about it. Read your stupid Gitas, Vedas, Sufi theology, the Scriptures, Hermeticism and Neoplatonism, even the Buddhist sutras and scriptures, try to find similarities where there are none and mangle together different cultures into one ‘primordial truth.’ You’ll die just the same as we all will! Do NOT under ANY means try to realize the unity of your Atman with Brahman, which doesn’t even exist!”

Is it possible they’re even secretly envious at the possibility people have had and can have greater experiences and more wisdom than they have?