/lit/ - Literature

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necessary as in has properties of some given category, sure, but that category (to me) is separate from the one of 'art', as in having the property of 'art-ness' that can be shared between different media. else you risk introducing into the discussion of film-as-art people's holiday video which is (probably) not art. a painting that is lines is a sketch sure but it does not prevent it from being art if it is not complete, 'finished', etc., see pic e.g.

the art-ness is, basically, mimesis, but that which requires or is allowed by an understanding of metaphysics. in present day this has a lot to do with systems, esp. the 'human system', e.g. in a 'natural system', cybernetics, environmental preservation, preservation of (indigenous) cultures, contract theory, the subconscious or organic algorithm, analytics (including sports), the 'open' western system...

beauty and expression are an old game, and are exhausted. beauty is primarily the drive of consumerism rather than art. it used to be a shortcut to describe the ideal, which is a metaphysical idea. expression is a strange one that came out of modern ideas of the human subject (in a modern liberal economy) and still owes to metaphysical ideas of genius, spirit, inspiration, etc. of a rich inner world, but ignores for whatever reason the systems from which it borrows, the artist as bricoleur. it is hard to say that modernism turned art on its head when the bulk of it still exists as oil on canvas, etc.

bricolage, in film it is the editing of footage. the film itself is an edit of living present, 'life with all the boring bits cut out' or whatever, a mimesis. the point of mimesis though is not a simple re-presentation of nature. a mirror reflection is not art. art is nature filtered through systems of knowledge (people), subject to metaphysics and 'recreated' in ways that are meaningful, to be reappropriated by people, people as nature. that is the economy of art, always.

the problem here is this is interpreted by metaphysics where the ultimate goal is 'pure presence', 'pure being' etc and you can see the result of this in contemporary art, where the art simply just is what it is and nothing more. supposedly, anyway, because the vast literature of art tells us this so the result is a false one. we cannot pretend.

coding is art deconstructed, to me this is the avant-garde. this is art 'beyond' its metaphysics, beyond its literature, where itself recreates its own metaphysics, the rules of why things are shown as how they are shown, etc. the 'true reality' beyond the show of the video game or whatever it is coded. it is not metaphysics per se, but an imitation, mimesis of the metaphysical system, making it art of the highest order, the avant-garde. 'philosophy' is the task of language reaching beyond itself, to clarify itself. art is the same in different media, it clarifies itself, the artist an agent of justice against tyrannies in art, representation, institutions, etc. blah blah