/lit/ - Literature

>>21364836
>Like when he makes mentions of trains, buttoned jackets, clocks on the mantelpiece? Very medieval. Or when he mentions the month of April in a supposedly pre-Historic time? If we're going full crazy and anachronistic we might as well read something like The Once and Future King.

God anon, are you actually that surface level? im talking about HOW stuff is expressed, not particular WHATS. Any erm achsually youtube comments history professional can comment about how potatos shouldn't be in medieval Europe. but that's petty and less than important unless you are doing a dissertation on crop rotations and caloric yields.
IF someone lists out a bunch of interesting factoids, that doesnt impress me, its about the greater whole thats actually expressed. And withing LotR, the methodology of expression is whats impressive. getting across the particualr intentions and appreciations of a pseudo-medieval setting. The role of poetics in in universe culture. And the morning of a memory that you know will become increasingly vague and distant.

Not that April is called fucking Glönkinlump and there arnt any zippers.

>>20687781
You cant prove a lot of things with subjective terms. But I think it can definietly communicate a general sense of something.
>you can still think it's shit, but dismissing it as pretentious is just failure to engage and blaming the work
no it doesnt, you are simply using a term to describe the type of shit it is. Of course somone might disagree, but then you can get into a debate back and forth as to why, you may agree on a conclusion, you may not. its a descriptive term like any other like gaudy or deep or well writen, or insightful. If you have a problem with the term pretentious, you should have a problem with any descriptive term that might not be objectively quantifiable.

Pretentious means something with too many pretensions
>pretension: the use of affectation to impress; ostentatiousness.
>affectation: behavior, speech, or writing that is artificial and designed to impress.
Unless you think thats somehow just something thats not a thing. Are you saying that a project cant come off as tryhard, artificial, or the like? Ive helped with papers and written papers, and you can definitely tell when someones writing is a bit "pretentious". But like with things in this catagory, there are greyzones as well.

>>20301972
>>20301977
Hes literally only remembered because better people found him kinda funny enough to make aphorisms of. kind of like anonymous (me).

He literally said nothing deep that wasnt said by the sophists before him. hes known for quips.
>featehrless biped
>sun
hell, there where even much better hermits who lived out in the wild or were like him street shitters, but didnt have the luxury to meet alexander or Plato.