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God damn you're dumb. Why are some people so dense they need a step by step instructional manual to understand a simple concept? I blame Legos. Taught kids to follow instructions rather than figure it out and use their fucking brains.

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>>21921886
Notice the Western Nile. It's talked about many times but considered a myth by later academics until we learned about the geological history of the area in the last 20 years. Atlantis at this time is in a swamp near the westernmost parts of the river. Earlier the Atlas mountains were circumnavigable by boat.
>>21921960
Apparently contradictory statements are often both true. All the maps are incomplete.
What map is best depends on your goal, even if the ultimate goal is understanding reality that doesn't mean always dogmatically working from the premises you think best represent reality like when trying to understand other people or history. To gain some insight into old Christian monk thinking for example I would think the best attitude is to give him some benefit of doubt and not always jump on the least insightful interpretation as the final and authoritative one. He clearly doesn't think the argument also applies to elephants, that the greatest imaginable elephant must also exist, with gold earrings or whatever dumb accessories we can think of because an elephant without gold earrings would be lesser.

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Has acceleration been criticized or peer reviewed seriously? Any modern blogs or books on this other than the primary source? I sorta see the logic in supporting monarchies since they seem to survive the rebellions and objectors can be shipped away to another country if necessary. So many tangents on this topic.
>the enemy isnt here they’re in another country and we have to kill them or else
This is a great way to pretend the enemy isn’t home to avoid unnecessary hysteria. Cultural governance is an evolving science with the need for intelligence security yet that’s a very costly system. The forever war must end and its perpetuators lynched to protect our species’ liberty. Exhaust the angst of the schizos and welcome them back to humanity. Eugenics is not the answer. Every man woman and child deserves the right to build upon this land a home or move to find opportunity. We can have nice things but we must act for immobility is for the dead. Ty for reading my Ted talk. -1 thread

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Find your will. The goal for the map, then build a map around the goal instead of relying on old maps built for other purposes.

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>>20956987
>Again, I'm opposing this whole mapping analogy of yours
If you can't even accept the basics I'm pointing at with the map analogy, the separation of the symbols from the thing then there's no discussion possible.
>a present-at-hand thing
A thing that changes over time is still mappable. We usually use the word models which is an analogy to a 3d map. They can be any number of dimensions.
>there can be many types of maps with different emphases
Exactly. Perspectives to an underlying reality.
>it does become completely meaningless.
But the mountain is still there. It's form as a mountain is not relevant to anyone but the underlying phenomena is there.

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>>20929063
I like certain ideas over others. If you can argue against them effectively I will change my mind like I did before. This is what we call thinking, we consider many different perspectives and try to approach the truth. We can have two apparently mutually exclusive models that still both provide information the other doesn't to help you navigate reality.
To talk about God in any meaningful sense you have to start with basic classical theism. You can't even start, you're incapable of thinking or discussing anything.

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>>20807209
>Your idea of "experience" is an idea.
Yes and the idea is not the actual directly revealed experience I'm trying to reference with the word.
You're constantly pointing at a map and demanding this map is not only a perfect representation of some territory, the map itself is the territory according to your arguments.
>but so is everyone
There are tools you can use to avoid being misled by your preconceptions. Tools like intellectual honesty.
>Ideas and their meanings are real
This is a statement not "absolute truth", it's a rough map that helps us navigate a territory but we don't really know what the territory is or how well our ideas of "objective truth" map on to that territory.
I still operate based on logic and create models that I test. I just know they have weak foundations and could be basically completely invalidated by some subtle change in perspective. These criticisms also apply to ideas of "truth", especially your binary categories which you misuse constantly.
>>20807234
>And all assumptions can be true or false
False. That's a heuristic to simplify everything into manageable units. Powerful but not true, as in with more fine grained conceptualizations you can have more power over the world if you're capable of wielding more complex abstractions.

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