/lit/ - Literature

>>20340783
I'm not gay I just mess up every time I go on a date with a girl. I went on a date a couple days ago and it went really well she was laughing and playing with her hair and shit but then when we went to split up she went for a hug and I went for a kiss and I awkwardly pecked her on the lips then she ghosted me. I only get to go on a few dates per year because I don't really know any women and girls on apps never actually want to meet up and I always screw it up awkwardly somehow. I don't understand what they want you to do in order to make them want to have sex with you. It's like going on dates with girls is some giant test where they're waiting for you to do one little unimportant thing wrong so they can never talk to you again and move on to the next random guy and I always do something wrong

>>20340791
I've never been a simp to the point that I've been pretty oblivious to women most of my life but it seems like the only way to get women is to bend over backwards doing things that they like in order to try to impress them and if you don't do this they can just ignore you and find some guy that will

>tfw 25 yo virgin turning 26 next month
>tfw went to big party school, made lifelong friends got drunk all the time did coke partied but was too afraid of women to ask them out and messed it up every time a girl asked me out
>graduate, get job in beach town in home state
>all of my friends are guys and the few that have gfs don't have any single friends for me around here
>rarely have an opportunity to talk to women, only really viable in bars and that never seems to work out for me
I don't hate women, I'm not blackpilled, but why does this have to be so hard. I'm a normie in every other facet of my life but why are women so hard for me

>>19827739
>(get a job, hobbies, have fun in life) and porn will naturally no longer affect you
This is absolutely false. If you are an addict nothing can stop you and the things that you have and haven't listed are just second-hand activities compared to THAT. You are in a different state of mind at that time and it does not apply only to porn / cooming.
t. you know who.

>>19769765
Every woman I date is super into me until eventually they end up saying stuff like I'm "a lot" or that I'm "quirky". Does this mean I'm the wildest horse or just autistic?

>I-I-I'm right if you take this one little blurb out of context and ignore the entire chapter previous as well as the paragraph succeeding where he admits to doing exactly what he did in the entire chapter previous

I had to go to a work happy hour and a lot of the older married guys I work with kept asking me about how the girls are treating me and shit like that. I had to keep lying about my history and making up excuses like "man COVID's been rough" since everyone assumes I'm good with women for some reason. I must be decent looking or something. Meanwhile I'm a mid 20s virgin and hearing these guys talk about how they met their wives in college or hearing the guy who's a few years older than me talk about how he just broke up with his gf makes me feel like shit. I feel so behind socially in this regard. I'm /fit/ and have always had male friends but I have no idea how to talk to women, I'm too autistic to dance and just pick them up in clubs, and my pictures are all too shitty to work on apps. I despise self-pity but I can't help but feel like shit about this kind of thing.

>>17149867
>waaaahhhhh if you disagree with me you're a troll!