/lit/ - Literature

>dear, aids is not real, it's just government propaganda to oppress the gay man! long live the anus!
>*dies of aids*
so much for modern "philosophers"

>dear, aids is not real, it's just government propaganda to oppress the gay man! long live the anus!
>*dies aids*
so much for modern "philosophers"

I have two Foucault books, "Discipline And Punish" and "Madness And Civilization", which one first? which one is more poignant in regards to our society? Yes I know he was gay and had AIDS, I don't care.

What are you guys thoughts on Foucault? Or Marcuse? Of Palo Freire? They all seem pretty based to me and share a similar school of thought, what is /lit/'s thoughts on these guys? As well as other philosopiers from the 60s and onward

>>17340220
Oui, je t'ai compris :)

Which chapters of the "Capital" should I read to waste as little time and gain the most knowledge about capitalism (especially that of the 19th century)?

THE MISSING LINK BETWEEN MARXISM AND CRITICAL THEORY

I always suspected they were related, because of their obvious similarities but wanted to see it codified explicitly in marxist theory
which is found in the work of Lukasc, specifically 'History and Class Consciousness'
He dictates that the proletariat have access to superior wisdom that is out of the reach of the bourgeois. And that this superior wisdom is stored in the communist state apparatus (rather than appearing in an empirical proletariat person who may or may not agree with parts of marxist theory) and that this wisdom emerges in practical commitment rather than in any "contemplative" investigation. so that what produces truth is the political action of the communist party. In other words, by definition, the party is never actually wrong since it is the only mechanism in generating truth criteria.

Leszek Kolakowski cleverly illustrates this by showing the difference in the normative imperative statement like "A Christian never steals" meaning that a good Christian wouldn't or shouldn't steal. But when someone says "A Soviet never steals" he also means literally that it is not possible for stealing to occur as part of the soviet essence (doesn't this stink of the same mental gymnastics that SJWs go through).

So Lindsay, while being tactical by trying to seduce and full-blooded Marxists (whether this is in order to actually win them or rather, as I suspect, to provide an alibi against being labelled as right-wing or a reactionary) he is wrong to not see this link. Lindsay actually explicitly states that Marxists see the victimised classes as being damaged in terms of their epistemological capability but that's not true as we can see, Lukasc did not have to develop Marx's own thought by any large degree to reach his conclusions about class consciousness.

>>16741488
>How did we go from Hegel to bugmen and trans kids?
i think i found the missing link

how the FUCK do you pronounce his name?

Literally died of bathhouse AIDS.

>In 1977, a petition was addressed to the French parliament calling for the abrogation of several articles of the age of consent law and the decriminalization of all consensual relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen
>The petition was signed by prominent leftist intellectuals, such as Louis Aragon, Michel Foucault, Jean-Paul Sartre, (((Jacques Derrida))), Louis Althusser, Roland Barthes, Simone de Beauvoir, Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Michel Leiris, Alain Robbe-Grillet, Philippe Sollers, Jacques Rancière, Jean-François Lyotard, Francis Ponge
>In 1979 two open letters were published in French newspapers defending individuals arrested under charges of statutory rape, in the context of abolition of age of consent laws.
Ok I am glad I now have something to deflect from being too lazy to read these pretentious French nuleft """philosophers""" - they are all pedophiles.

>>13243550

>BDSM is consensual

No, it isn't. There is no consensual sex between men and women. The male thought-experience is so totally incompatible with the female that nominal consent from either party is inadmissible in the thought-sphere of the gender opposed. And moreover, subtextual thought-spheres are omnipresent and exist for racialized and other minorities, implying that, for instance, same sex interracial relationships cannot be consensual in any meaningful sense either.

In general, the penetrative act, as >>13243541 describes, contains within it an abominable, primordial power relation that cannot be reconciled with notions of a just or liberated society and people

>>13122834
What if banning abortion doesn't have any of those consequences, but instead creates a black market, from which economic levies are taken through imprisonment and re-appropriation of illegally obtained funds?

Did the discursive concept of "homosexual", with all its contemporary meanings and implicit power relations, even exist when Whitman was alive?

What does /lit/ think of this faggot?

Where do I start with Michel Foucault? Not my cup of tea, but I want to hear it out. Better postmodernists to recommend, perhaps?

>>12395165
Come again?

Foucault, prove me wrong.

Genius, hack, or neither? Why?

>>11823884
We must dedicate our loathsome existence to total annihilation

Foucault ripped off Erving Goffman, George Herbert Mead and symbolic interactionism/pragmatism

>>11802812
the bayesian techoshamanists will win, jp is fighting a pointless battle

We must dedicate our loathsome existence to total annihilation