/lit/ - Literature

>>8886444

>free will doesn't exist

Yea it doesn't. Your mind makes your decisions before "you" become conscious of them. There is no "you". The "conscious mind" and the subconscious are one in the same. This has been hinted at (some say proven) with developments in neuroscience and the data keeps pouring out every day.

>we are animals and machines and there is no difference between animals and machines

The only difference between animals and machines is once a machine becomes complex enough it can be considered an animal. Viruses appear to be living yet they aren't classified under the animal kingdom because they're too "simplistic" in their structure. The distinction exists only in complexity.

>>8886448

>why do we have a word for either instead of just one word for both of them? why is there a distinction in our language, (at least in terms of specificity, not necessarily the definitions themselves) between animals and machines, if there is no ultimate difference?

Okay David Foster Wallace fan boy, what if I told you our language developed in a time period where the extent of what a machine could do was keeping wooden carts rolling?

>besides, on what grounds are logic and nature even remotely the same? are all things that are natural by definition logical?

I'm using the term logic a little too loosely. A computer (a machine) is at it's core little bits of electricity traveling around and interacting in a really complex way to make the text on your screen. The human brain (and the "animal" brain) is at it's core a series of small electrical pulses interacting in a really complex way to make your fingers move the way they're about to when you type your response.

>>3743904

Gee, nobody wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole. What's the matter? I'm sure there is some non-physiological, non-biological, non-adaptive explanation for all of this, right? Come on, show me what you got.