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Hegel is where high IQ becomes indistinguishable from schizophrenia. The Phenomenology of Spirit and Whitehead's Process and Reality are more esoteric than actual esoterica and fucking gibberish.

If that's the role to some sort of progress, provided it isn't just gibberish, it's going to have to wait until gene editing makes average IQ what is currently like 170.

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This is a bad post. If you think Hegel is a Platonist you haven't read Hegel and haven't even read about Hegel. One of Hegel's great achievements was bridging the realist vs nominalism gap, making them part of a circular whole. A lot of his ideas got taken up by semiotics when Pierce and Sausser got that going in earnest and cognitive science has borne out at least part of the idea of the universals generating and shaping reality (as conciousness experiences it, which is the only reality to speak of for Hegel), but instantiations of universals in the world creating the universal.

Hegel and Fichte are not dualists, and certainly not Platonists. Hegel said he was most inspired by Heraclitus of all the Greeks, but given his little survives of him, I think that is more posturing for how he sees his work. He takes more from Aristotle than Plato in much though.

Materialism hasn't been refuted. The vast majority of philosophers of mind these days are physicalists. The ontological nature of the physical is hotly debated, with some analytics saying nothing really can be said of it, but that doesn't mean they reject that physicalism describes major facets of reality.

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This isn't how most idealists go about things. There were legitimate solpisists, but few since ancient Greece made a name for themselves, since there isn't too much more you can say on the topic.

You can also be ontologically agnostic as to whether reality can be without mind. I think that is maybe the fairest position since the dual value logic of correspondence definitions of truth and empiricism can't exist without an observer, and so there is a big problem with using empiricism to ground a noumenal world sans observer. This is why so many scientists stretch themselves to find theories of panpsychism (that and they want an answer to the Hard Problem and doubt physics and the dependant special sciences can ever get us there).

For my part, Hegel has been the thinker whose most opened my eyes on the whole topic. Of course, I am now stuck being pic related.

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