/lit/ - Literature

>>12673952
>t.

>>11618102
I am an antinatalist and recently have been trying to broach this with my family. The issue is that my 21 year old sister is heavily pregnant with her fucking THIRD child (she is a whore) so naturally my family is very reactive to my views. They have been making snarky jibes at me whenever I mention antinatalism around them.

How do I explain my views without coming across as arrogant? I have tried everything. for example I sent my sister an excel spreadsheet comparing her babies potential pleasure within the first 20 minutes of life with its potential suffering. For example I explain in the document that her baby could potentially of course gain pleasure from its first ever burp but could also gain pain from accidentally burping up its own stomach juices due to a rupture in the belly from birth defects, as well as other things. She was enraged like the bitch she is. I have also tried to demonstrate that she is immoral for bringing babies into the world, and even if she wasn't a bad mother to her current children and wasn't poor and single, her childrens suffering would still not be worth it.

I have tried giving David Benatars example of being in a theatre for a bad show that you wouldn't get up to leave but that you regret going to to demonstrate the folly of my fathers 'why don't you just kill yourself' defence and he didn't understand. He told me 'if you were at the theatre next to me I would get up and leave faggot'.

I don't want to ruin my familial relationship but don't want to bend to their idiotic views. My mother and father have already told me that if antinatalism only related to my birth they would support it but they are just petty because they are losing. It is funny because I am a 29 year old NEET and bring nothing but suffering to them yet they claim new life is worth it?

>>11317791
I am an antinatalist and recently have been trying to broach this with my family. The issue is that my 21 year old sister is heavily pregnant with her fucking THIRD child (she is a whore) so naturally my family is very reactive to my views. They have been making snarky jibes at me whenever I mention antinatalism around them.

How do I explain my views without coming across as arrogant? I have tried everything. for example I sent my sister an excel spreadsheet comparing her babies potential pleasure within the first 20 minutes of life with its potential suffering. For example I explain in the document that her baby could potentially of course gain pleasure from its first ever burp but could also gain pain from accidentally burping up its own stomach juices due to a rupture in the belly from birth defects, as well as other things. She was enraged like the bitch she is. I have also tried to demonstrate that she is immoral for bringing babies into the world, and even if she wasn't a bad mother to her current children and wasn't poor and single, her childrens suffering would still not be worth it.

I have tried giving David Benatars example of being in a theatre for a bad show that you wouldn't get up to leave but that you regret going to to demonstrate the folly of my fathers 'why don't you just kill yourself' defence and he didn't understand. He told me 'if you were at the theatre next to me I would get up and leave faggot'.

I don't want to ruin my familial relationship but don't want to bend to their idiotic views. My mother and father have already told me that if antinatalism only related to my birth they would support it but they are just petty because they are losing. It is funny because I am a 29 year old NEET and bring nothing but suffering to them yet they claim new life is worth it?

>>10870637
never forget

I am an antinatalist and recently have been trying to broach this with my family. The issue is that my 21 year old sister is heavily pregnant with her fucking THIRD child (she is a whore) so naturally my family is very reactive to my views. They have been making snarky jibes at me whenever I mention antinatalism around them.

How do I explain my views without coming across as arrogant? I have tried everything. for example I sent my sister an excel spreadsheet comparing her babies potential pleasure within the first 20 minutes of life with its potential suffering. For example I explain in the document that her baby could potentially of course gain pleasure from its first ever burp but could also gain pain from accidentally burping up its own stomach juices due to a rupture in the belly from birth defects, as well as other things. She was enraged like the bitch she is. I have also tried to demonstrate that she is immoral for bringing babies into the world, and even if she wasn't a bad mother to her current children and wasn't poor and single, her childrens suffering would still not be worth it.

I have tried giving David Benatars example of being in a theatre for a bad show that you wouldn't get up to leave but that you regret going to to demonstrate the folly of my fathers 'why don't you just kill yourself' defence and he didn't understand. He told me 'if you were at the theatre next to me I would get up and leave faggot'.

I don't want to ruin my familial relationship but don't want to bend to their idiotic views. My mother and father have already told me that if antinatalism only related to my birth they would support it but they are just petty because they are losing. It is funny because I am a 29 year old NEET and bring nothing but suffering to them yet they claim new life is worth it?

>>10516251
They removed the anti-natalist one. That was fun. Pic related from the thread.

here's a chart I made

Pic is the spreadsheet I provided her with