/lit/ - Literature

>>15036868
>The water in the sea is of the same kind as the water in the cup, but water is susceptible of being passed out in this univocal way because it is not fundamentally one.
The water is never actually separated from itself or compartmentalized and hence cannot be passed out
>If one is a ‘fraction’ of the Great Mind, then either the division of the Mind is an illusion, in which case the ignorance and ‘mess’ of the ‘fraction’ is also an illusion,
This is correct, ignorance and 'mess' are themselves unreal and part of the illusion, liberation can be regarded as a 'recollection' so to speak that there was only one undivided God all along who was completely unaffected by illusion, ignorance and 'mess' only seem real until they are revealed to not be. The snake only appears so long as you don't know it's a rope, but the snake never actually existed even at the moment when you thought you saw it
>nondualism remains foolishness (if one denies one’s ignorance in the first way)
you never explained what was foolish my man
>>15036903
>There cannot be faith on nondualism
Completely wrong, the cultivation of the fourfold qualities or "fourfold discipline" (sādhana-catustaya) is held by traditional Advaita to be necessary for progressing along the spiritual path of Advaita, one of these disciplines is Śraddhā, or faith in the truth of the scriptures and the teachings of one's spiritual teacher. Faith is taken as a preliminary requirement rather than an end in itself though, and with this faith one is ultimately lead to direct spiritual experience that confirms one's faith as being correct, and with the flowering of this fruit one does not need faith anymore to know that it is true because one has directly experienced it.
> so fatuous as to be produced only by the height of spiritual arrogance.
Have you ever read any Vedantic texts from beginning to end? Is it not spiritually arrogant to make such haughty pronouncements about something which you have no firsthand knowledge of and have only ever heard about from secondary and tertiary sources?
>>15037678
>Whatever is capable of being truly parcelled out never was God, since God is one. If he is not parcelled out, then no 'ornaments' are 'made of' him,
Indeed, God was never parcelled out, no ornaments were ever made, " O Somya, it is like this: By knowing a single lump of earth you know all objects made of earth. All changes are mere words, (existing) in name only. But earth is the reality." - Chandogya Upanishad 6.1.4.
> If he is not parcelled out, then no 'ornaments' are 'made of' him, and the non-dualist has no basis to claim equality with God.
To the contrary, if no ornaments were ever made than anything that is conscious is non-different from the Gold that nothing was ever made out of. If only one thing truly exists, then anything that has awareness is automatically identical with that one thing. To be conscious in a universe where one thing exists is to be one with that one thing.

>>13928582
unironically Indian philosophy, reading Baudrillard and Debord aligns great, the spectacle is the reflection of Maya in modern human consumer society. See Marty Glass's book for an exposé of how the Foucault, Adorno etc were all describing the cultural decay of the Kali Yuga

>>13460055
"You cannot go beyond Ramanuja" sounds to me like a furtive way of saying "I didn't understand Shankara's works". UG's statement is noticeably devoid of specifics. If monism/non-dualism is something that truly "you cannot talk about", than how did Shankara manage to do so over the course of the 4000-5000+ pages of brilliant writing that he was responsible for? UG ignores this obvious contradiction in his claim.

>>13162436
>an influential person is something that should be avoided
Given the sad state of the 'intellectuals' held up as influential by the modern media that sounds like a very good idea indeed

>>13107799
the value of a society is a lot more than just its economy

>>13000000
Holy shit this may be the greatest achievement of this board