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>>18521614
Yeah, what he said >>18521971
Don't you see how ridiculous you sound? it's like you're saying that if a murderer was brought before Jesus, Jesus would have said "let him who is without sin, cast the first stone (at this murderer)"

You should know that in the context of the time, the Pharisees were trying to entrap Jesus into breaking Roman law, which had no death penalty for adultery. This is not to say that Jesus could not have ordered her death under Jewish law, just that Jewish law was in abeyance at the time, due to the occupation of Judea by the Romans. He had mercy on the adulteress, but this was a choice, an act of clemency from a judge, not a moral necessity.

If Jesus were brought a murderer, and not an adulteress in the 8th Chapter of John, Jesus would have told them to take the murderer to the Romans, to be duly tried and executed.

>>18484152
Quote from Section 52 of "On the Bondage of the Will"
>BUT here the Diatribe will sharply retort—"Ecclesiasticus by saying, "if thou wilt keep," signifies that there is a will in man, to keep, and not to keep: otherwise, what is the use of saying unto him who has no will, "if thou wilt?" Would it not be ridiculous if any were to say to a blind man, if thou wilt see, thou mayest find a treasure? Or, to a deaf man, if thou wilt hear, I will
relate to thee an excellent story? This would be to laugh at their misery"

>I answer: These are the arguments of human reason, which is wont to shoot forth many such sprigs of wisdom. Wherefore, I must dispute now, not with Ecclesiasticus, but with human reason concerning a conclusion; for she, by her conclusions and syllogisms, interprets and twists the Scriptures of God just which way she pleases. But I will enter upon this willingly, and with confidence, knowing, that she can prate nothing but follies and absurdities; and that more especially, when she attempts to make a shew of her wisdom in these divine matters. First then, if I should demand of her how it can be proved, that the freedom of the will in man is signified and inferred, wherever these expressions are used, 'if thou wilt,' 'if thou shalt do,' 'if thou shalt hear;' she would say, because the nature of words, and the common use of speech among men, seem to require it. Therefore, she judges of divine things and words according to the customs and things of men; than which, what can be more perverse; seeing that, theformer things are heavenly, the latter earthly. Like a fool, therefore, she exposes herself, making it manifest that she has not a thought concerning God but what is human. But, what if I prove, that the nature of words and the use of speech even among men, are not always of that tendency, as to make a laughing stock of those to whom it is said, 'if thou wilt,' 'if thou shalt do it.' 'if thou shalt hear?'—How often do parents thus play with their children, when they bid them come to them, or do this or tha t , for this purpose only, that it may plainly appear to them how unable they are to do it, and that they may call for the aid of the parent's hand? How often does a faithful physician bid his obstinate patient do or omit those things which are either injurious to him or impossible, to the intent that, he may bring him, by an experience, to the knowledge of his disease or his weakness? And what is more general and common, than to use words of insult or provocation,
when we would show either enemies or friends, what they can do and what they cannot do?

>>18394396
>>18395007
Lol, here is an atheist in perfect denial of reality

But the huge problem with this is that if all the apostles believed that the world was literally going to end in their lifetimes, then why did anyone take this religion seriously after they all died? The only answer I can come up with is that Christianity is not a doomsday cult, and atheists like Schweitzer are confusing modern fringe lunatics with the 1st century Church.

>>18280116
The correct answer is that this is your brain on Catholicism

>>18211482
That stories with morals are for children

>>18205199
Tell him to eat his own arse; with such a high opinion of himself he will like that better than any book