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>>9508520
I think we may be using "secular" differently. I mean any philosophical position that doesn't appeal to religious principles.
I think you thought i meant a philosophy centered on religious equality? What word do you think i should use instead?

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> Free will is inherently supernatural, being atheist means to accept the full control of biological and physical laws
You're using the religious definition of free will, remember what i said:
>When secularists talk about free will, a lot of them are talking about acting in such a way that one is not simultaneously morally or intellectually opposed to that action- completely different from the theistic model of free will.
When determinists use the words "free will" they're referring to something completely different than when religious people use it. I'm an atheist, I also don't believe in theistic free will. You seem to be saying that i do.
no magic -> no theistic free will. We agree.
I'm not sure about the locus of agency. individuals still exist even if the world is deterministic.