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>human nature
The human nature you are familiar with is that under capitalism. May I remind you that feudal ideologues denied that capitalism could catch on often due to their limited view of human nature. talk of human nature is used to deny change and deny an exploitative relationship. Marx is only utopian in that he envisions a future that is vastly better than the present.
>immiseration thesis
pick related my man
>modern political science
you're gonna have to be more specific
>charismatic leadership or oligarchic conspiracy would take control over the worker's councils and they would go to war with each other
this is certainly an obstacle, but capitalism is very unstable as well. i am not convinced that this is an inevitability.

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>If most people, most of the time
yea i guess those lower class people born in the country with the highest GDP in the world who no longer have access to healthcare due to incredibly profit-driven nature of society will just have to bite the bullet, eh?

>increasing efficiency
[citation needed]
global development is due to technology, not the wonderful social and economic effects of global capitalism.

>Because not everyone can become as rich as Bill Gates
no, it's a bad system minimum wage cannot even sustain a life due to wage slavery while the extreme (and increasing) inequalities only grow larger everyday and the social effects of capitalism devastate our culture and especially my country
>destroy society
i prefer 'change society', thank you. it's still a society, isn't it?

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