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>my name is Fyodor, and this has been
>a tale of Crime and Punishment
okay but what the fuck did he mean by this?

>> No.13131396 [View]
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When Svidrigailov is talking about ghosts, is he just explaining his thought process about them or did it serve some plot narrative?

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>Commit a crime
>Get punished lol

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>"I agree that ghosts only appear to the sick, but that only proves that they are unable to appear except to the sick, not that they don't exist."

>"Ghosts are, as it were, shreds and fragments of other worlds, the beginning of them. A man in health has, of course, no reason to see them, because he is above all a man of this earth and is bound for the sake of completeness and order to live only in this life. But as soon as one is ill, as soon as the normal earthly order of the organism is broken, one begins to realize the possibility of another world; and the more seriously ill one is, the closer becomes one's contact with the other world. I thought of that long ago. If you believe in a future life, you could believe in that, too.

>"And what if there are only spiders there, or something of that sort?"

>"We always imagine eternity as something beyond our conception, something vast, vast! But why must it be vast? Instead of all that, what if it's one little room, like a bath-house in the country, black and grimy and spiders in every corner, and that's all eternity is? I sometimes fancy it like that."

unironically scared me to death since my insanity has had some sort of link to spiders, im now wondering if Dostoevsky was as insane and if the thing he describes is actually real and a very universal peek to the otherness rather than some individual delusion

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>> No.13010356 [View]
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Can a novel be great if it's not indirectly about philosophy?

>> No.12987581 [View]
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I'll start with pic related

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>It wasn't that good...
what kind of person do you imagine

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probably

>> No.12890422 [View]
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>empathy exists
whoa dude, neetche btfo!

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Marmeladov was so fucking annoying in that little arc where he was sharing his story with raslolovikic drunk at the pub

Like holy fucking, he was talking for 5 pages with FIVE ALL OF TEXTS.

I skipped basically the entirety of it when i saw how crudely it was written in one big blocky format. Too much strain on my eyes

what did i miss?

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>"It was my mistake, too, not to have given them money," he thought, as he returned dejectedly to Lebeziatnikov's room, "and why on earth was I such a Jew?"

What the h*ck was Dostoevsky's problem?

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>>12688552

if they were really great (((they))) wouldntve been able to silence them (pic related)

>> No.12596520 [View]
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>guy drinking to the last cent
>daughter prostituting herself
>protagonist's sister prostituting herself to a much older pervert
>jew exploiting her dumb sister
>horse getting tortured by owner
>man beating the living shit out of a defenseless woman
>old jewish woman getting axed to death
>woman commiting suicide
...

Part 2 is far from over. How the fuck is the world of Crime and Punishment so miserable?

>> No.12521314 [View]
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What is he intended to show the reader in the book? It would seem like he is a monolithic "bad guy." He is a pedophile, he attempted to rape Dunya and he drove his servent to suicide. Yes, he did give money to Sonia and the other kids but it seems like it was an attempt to groom them. So what is the reasoning for Dostoevsky to put such a one dimensional character in the book?

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I've just finished this bad boy, and the epilogue left me puzzled. Raskolnikov was immoral because he didn't regret the murder, suffered for a while (but not in a good way because he was still not regretful), then got reborn. So if suffering selflessly is the key to salvation, how did Raskolnikov manage to get reborn without suffering selflessly even for a moment? This is obviously something to do with Sonia, but I couldn't put my finger on it.
Was he saved because
-Sonia suffered in his place;
-He felt bad for her and that caused him to selflessly suffer;
-Something else?

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>>12454909
>character named raskolnikov
>he's a bit of a rascal desu

>> No.12384754 [View]
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After about 50 pages

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Did George Orwell borrow inspiration from Dostoevsky? The scene where Porfiry "interrogates" Raskolnikov is almost identical to the interrogation part in 1984 with Winston and O'Brien.

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I will start reading this tomorrow, any advice or recommendation?

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What do people think of me when I say Crime and Punishment was my favorite book of all time?

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>when the epilogue saves the whole book

post em

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>> No.11997528 [View]
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When does it get good?



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