/lit/ - Literature

>>4585496

>>4255996
HAHA LE EPIC TROLLE :DDDDDDD U STATUS = TROLLED :DDDDDD

if u r so smrat... then why is there something rather than nothing?

So I'm planning to order some books from Amazon and am looking to jack up the subtotal to about 65 pounds. I'd be truly grateful if you could recommend something based on what I've already added, either fiction or non-fiction. Here is what I have in my basket so far:

> 'The Sickness Unto Death', Kierkegaard
> 'The Book of Disquiet', Fernando Pessoa
> 'The Aeneid', Virgil
> 'The Myth of Sisyphus', Camus
> 'Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus', Wittgenstein
> 'Introductory Lectures on Aesthetics', Hegel
> 'Fear and Trembling', Kierkegaard
> 'The Birth of Tragedy', Nietzsche

My current subtotal is 50 pounds.

'Philosophical Investigations' or 'Tractatus-Logico Philosophicus'? Which is a better starting point?

anyone interested in the later Witt.?

care to share some thoughts/criticisms? things you find interesting?

i'd like to get a wittgenstein thread rolling.

in an effort to begin conversation, i'm particularly interested in the role of "passionate frame of reference" in relation to changes in forms of life. picking up on the thread involving the kind who believes that the world began when he was born, how are we to go about altering a view that is seemingly so entrenched in practice (assuming that the king has rituals, ceremonies, etc that conform to this criterion)? or: how do we provoke shifts in frame of reference? is this merely to speak about shifts in activity/practice?

Im currently reading The Blue and Brown Books by Wittgenstein, but i stumbled across a passage im not entirely sure about.

In the Brown book Wittgenstein talks about how people judge an objects color. An example is how a person would normally judge the color of four objects, compared to how a person would count four objects.

What did /lit/ get from reading this passage?

>>2865625
And Whitgenstein was a boozy swin..........

Don't listen to
>>2851449

Of course we *can* talk about it. We just did.

Opinions on Wittgenstein ?

ATTENTION STIRNERFAGS

He was a miserable cunt, nobody liked him, everyone died or fled, he himself died in poverty, unrecognised. Like Nietzsche. And Schopenhauer. And all those faggots.

Published in 1922 with other Modernist Epics like Ulysses and The Wasteland, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus is the greatest poem of the 20th century.

deal with it

>>2338921
studies have shown that marxism leads to travesty? c'mon now that's just an idiotic statement.

>>2338936
spain circa 1935, russia circa 1919

as for the french vs the germans. i say germany wins (wittgenstien was austrian, though)

TRACTACUS LOGICO-PHILOSOPHICUS

>>1502302
>mfw hard scientists describe events in the world using complex and detailed semantics and don't acknowledge that events are thermodynamically unique and never re-occur.
>mfw science is just philosophy that doesn't examine its assumptions.

Anyone in the mood for some philosophy discussions?

Stop asking unreasonable questions.

>Notoriously, Wittgenstein acknowledged, without shame, that he had never read a word of Aristotle.

Why do people take this guy seriously?

From the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus:

At the basis of the whole modern view of the world lies the illusion that the so-called laws of nature are the explanations of natural phenomena. (6.371)

So people stop short at natural laws as something unassailable, as did the ancients at God and Fate.

And they are both right and wrong. But the ancients were clearer, in so far as they recognized one clear terminus, whereas the modern system makes it appear as though everything were explained. (6.372)

>>1126843
bit late in the century there bro

>>1126874
ah geez are you that guy with beef against people who have the terrible gall to use labels?