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If Brahman has no object (external object not in dream, external object and internal object not in dreamless sleep) and no subject (not in dreamless sleep) how can the waking life of subject-object duality be engaged with upon actually attaining Brahman in the Fourth which is like dreamless sleep (in that it is without internal/external object and subject)


So as I understand it if waking is like the top layer with external/internal object and a subject relating therewith, a layer beneath that is dream with internal object and a subject relating therewith, and behind that dreamless sleep which is without an external/internal object and without a subject, so then Brahman the Fourth is like the core which pervades all three, and is all that endures.

>So it seems there is a discontinuity between Brahman and engaging in waking life, if thinking about Dreamless sleep is anything to go by, or states of unconsciousness which fit the criteria as nondual? How could such a person interact with the world which presents the brute fact of an external object (not to mention the body itself being one) whether we like it or not?

So how does right perception operate in one who is in something like a dreamless sleep, yet going about in the world?

If the Fourth and dreamless sleep are only distinguished by misperception being absent from the formed yet present in the latter

This "Right Perception" seems to have to operate simultaneously with the Nondual Awareness, and if so we would be able to discuss it since people who have realized Brahman have been in the world and described that they have realized it.


Please people who know, elucidate upon this matter so I don't fall for "alternative hypotheses" like some innate embodied intelligence called "kundalini" taking the role of Right perception for a person who has realized the Fourth, or some power described like "Vimarsha shakti"

With gurus telling me you just have to "Get out of the way" and your doubts will fall away by the power of a descent of grace? Or is this actually the limit of intellectual reasoning that I have climbed to, and the only way to loosen the knot, or resolve the aporia is to now let love, light and nature take its course?

What medicine can I take to also assure myself on that I am not going to end up like that feared outcasted cataleptic puppet sunken, deaf, dumb and drowned in the undifferentiated chaos of the ocean, which I have become paranoid about after reading authors like Guenon talk about Quantity vs Quality or even Sankhyas and Yoga sutra inspired "citta vritti nirodha" stuff talking about Purusha vs. Prakriti, Seer vs Seen, and about there being a regression or inverted realization which is an inferior development bent to undifferentiated matter?

Help me see right and dare with courage, after dipping my toes, not knowing of my ability to swim in the water I have become paranoid about falling in and drowning! Set me right and show me the way to courage and daring.