/lit/ - Literature

>It's the episode where Descartes tries to sneak a peek into Al-Ghazali's notebook, but the sunni sonuvabitch returns before he can memorize more than two pages

>>7451092
Because I cannot conceive of knowledge received via any means but sensory experience. I can reliably trace back even my most ineffable ideas to some simple sensory impression or amalgamation thereof.

It may very well be possible, but from what I can tell not from the perspective of a finite human being, and I'm not going to make any assumptions or inferences because induction is an impossibility

>>7451103
He attempted the cogito doubt and, unlike Descartes, didn't fall into the trap of assuming that there is a thinking "I" (all in 15 pages and all centuries before Descartes), he btfo rationalism 700 years before Modern Philosophy and had a Hume-like theory of causation rooted in an arational foundational truth.

These are very broad and general claims to fame but imho he was the greatest philosopher to ever live.

>>7451105
My ex-girlfriend

>>7444476
Candide is a phenomenological reply to Leibniz's claim that we live in the best of all worlds delivered as satire. It's definitely not a stand alone work of philosophy but it functions well as a companion piece to the two Leibniz works listed

>>7444499
>not knowledgeable on Arab philosophers
>claims guide is comprehensive

The Ash'arites had a pseudo atomic conception of space time and theologically rooted multiverse theory in the 9th century

The spiritual successor to these people was Al-Ghazali, who did everything Descarte did in 15 pages in his Deliverance from Error (a copy of which was supposedly found in Descartes library), his theory of causation is essentially Hume 500 years before Hume and he btfo Rationalism in a way that wouldn't be matched until Gödel's incompleteness theorems.

Any guide that doesn't include him at the very least, and there are many more who deserve to be considered "essential" (Al-Farabi, Ibn-Sina, Ibn'Rusd to name a few), doesn't get to be called comprehensive.

>>7444510
Thanks again for the link last night anon, don't know shit about modern Islamic philosophy but I'm on my way

>>7444338
>implying rationalism isn't just jerking off in a self contained system with no basis in reality
>implying trying to apprehend an arational foundation for truth isn't the best method
>implying the Sufi's don't have it right

I have bad news for you anon

What does /lit/ think of Abū Ḥāmid "Religion is more logical than empirical science and I have proof" Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-Ghazālī

>Descartes stole his entire system from 15 pages of this guy
>Influenced everyone from Hume to Kant to Wittgenstein
>Lived his philosophy instead of orating it from an armchair

>implying the "dark ages" were actually bare of intellectual and cultural enrichment
>implying this isn't just some eurocentric bullshit
>implying the Islamic world didn't have an atomic conception of space and time in the 9th century
>implying that we would even have gotten to where we are today without the idea of "God" being there to propel us to investigate the absolute
>implying Christianity isn't the basis of everything we would call "science"/"natural philosophy"
>implying Descartes' cogito proof, the foundation for a certain mathematics, doesn't rely on God's existence

Atheism and ridicule of religion in general is a sign of either a closed mind or a lack of education tbh

Al-Ghazali is arguably one of the most important philosophical figures in the Islamic world, and if influence is a measure of significance, he must also rank as one of the most significant philosophical figures ever. This does not mean that he has been recognized as such in the European philosophical tradition. However, this should not be considered surprising. Most students of European philosophical thought have tended to confine their historical investigations to European thinkers without considering the historical roots of the latters’ speculations. Thus, by the same token, neither al-Kindi nor Ibn Rushd are known to most Western philosophers even though St. Thomas’ essence-existence distinction had its historical roots in Al-Kindi’s seminal distinction, and the preponderance of Aristotelian scholarship from the Middle Ages to the 19th century would have taken an entirely different turn had it not been for Ibn Rushd’s Commentaries