/lit/ - Literature

>>23295568
Extended similes and repetition of phraseology are key to the Homeric style though you clearly understand that it would seem. If you don’t find them engaging that is a you problem. If you find them difficult that is outright stupidity on your part. Managing a few pages a day of the Iliad is certainly nothing to fret about. Each page has more philosophic depth than anything else you could be reading. One page of the Iliad a day is still better than someone who reads no pages of the Iliad.

>>23200687
It is an excerpt from an old philosophy treatise attributed to Hippocrates.

Theists: God/ gods control not only the physical world but the spiritual realm and the soul. All of this is linked to the divine and men can only know the physical

Astrologers/ mystics: man can know the soul and the metaphysical realm with as much ease as the physical realm. Nothing belongs to god which man can not know

I see his point. Astrology is atheist or makes the claim one knows better than god.

>>23200274
Okay, Hippothales likes Lysis in “that way” and Lysis is clearly disgusted by him and tries to ignore him when he prattles on with his dumb poems. That is the scenario Socrates is working with. He is working to push them towards platonic ideal of love.

“It’s okay if Lysis doesn’t feel the same way because Lysis’ beautiful form gives you pleasure and that means you benefit”
Hippothales barely even likes Lysis at all besides being physically attracted to him and Socrates is attempting to show Hippothales that relationships are more than about just that aspect. It doesn’t end with the two of them sleeping together or anything so it’s not like Socrates pushed him into Lysis’ bed. He made them agree they are both just friends but that they share platonic love.

If you need that explained any further just search secondary lit on Lysis.

>>23107902
>Odyssey (story between a faithful tradwife and a husband desiring union with his wife, preferring her presence "even" over being the sex slave of a godess who presumably ALWAYS swallows and does other despicable, immoral things)

The Odyssey influenced me because of how it portrayed the briefness of love and yet its eternal persistence. Penelope barely knew Odysseus before he left for Troy (they had a newborn and were just married in an arranged marriage) and yet Odysseus retained those feelings for twenty years. Book 23 deals with Penelope attempting to discern if the stranger before her is her husband since her memories of him are so vague and far off that she thinks he could be anyone. That idea of memory and of the nostalgic foundations of love really spoke to me.

>>23089034
And since you genuinely believe that you have shown your unforgeable loyalty and have proven you belong among the ranks of his political army.

>>23064842
Petronius Arbiter since he was the one who created the entire genre. Trimalchio is the first example of a fictional parody of a real person (parody of Emperor Nero and possibly self referential parody of the writer Petronius). Also it is the first parody of an existing work of literature since the main plot of the book is a parody of Homer’s Odyssey and incurring the god Poseidon’s wrath is replaced by incurring the wrath of Priapus.

>>22952877
Petronius’ Satyricon is both a collection of frivolous Milesian tales as well as a comedic parody of Homer which manages to reflect upon the fleetingness of life and love.

>>22947018
Reading Charles Upton rn. I thank guenonfag for his efforts, but this board never had the metaphysical chops to into Guenon anyway.