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>>18625520
Christians destroyed most of it. So most of what we have of it are from quotes in Christian responses. St Cyril in Alexandria for example conducted actual door to door searches for Julians writings.

You must never forget the utter depravity that is Christianity. They took a huge and massive dump on the world after the conversion of Rome, and everything since then must be viewed through that shit stained lens.

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>>16105212
>not everything was destroyed therefore we wuz preservers and shieeet
You're the sort of guy that looks at the Eddas and says "Thanks Christianity!", right?

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>>14972577
Since it is firmly established that the Christians actively destroyed writings that went against their religion for as a religion it stands opposed to everything a virtuous person finds to be good, wholesome and proper. It is not at all more likely that his attacks would survive than not. Porphyry having managed to survive(only in quotes of Christians "debunking" him) is more of an exception, not the rule.

Plotinus also necessarily did not have to write a directed attack on Christianity because his philosophy itself proved their entire religion to be untenable.

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gee golly I don't know

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>>13786470
No. They're venerated because of their philosophy. Not because Christians only managed to destroy most but not all of Greek philosophy.

Christians be like "we may have shut down the academy, all the religious institutions that inspired them and which maintained an actual coherent foundational culture where doing philosophy for the sake of philosophy actually makes sense, put the philosophers in literal tribunals, made philosophy straight up illegal(yes philosophy with unquestionable axioms is not philosophy but theology so philosophy actually died with Christianity), went door to door looking for haram pagan philosophical literature and chased the last of the philosophers off to Persia. But we wuz preservers and shieeet"
>Nietzsche, Marx, Atheism, Secular humanism? Liberalism has done more to destroy the philosophy of the Greeks than anything else
None of this has done anything to destroy Greek philosophy.

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>>13628725
>That all superstition of pagans and heathens should be annihilated is what God wants, God commands, God proclaims!’ - St Augustine
>Writings such as Cicero's De re publica overwritten by Augustine's on Psalms.
>‘All the pagans were under the power of demons. Temples were built to demons, altars were set up to demons, priests ordained for the service of demons, sacrifices offered to demons, and ecstatic ravers were brought in as prophets for demons. - St Augustine
>Augustine evidently assumed his congregants would be taking part in the violence – and implied that they were right to do so: throwing down temples, idols and groves was, he said, no less than ‘clear proof of our not honouring, but rather abhorring, these things’ - St Augustine, Letter 47.
>In AD 401, Augustine told Christians in Carthage to smash pagan objects because, he said, that was what God wanted and commanded. It has been said that sixty died in riots inflamed by this burst of oratorical fire. - St Augustine, Sermon 24.6
>A little earlier a congregation of Augustine’s, eager to sack the temples of Carthage, had started reciting Psalm 83. ‘Let them be humiliated and be downcast forever,’ they chanted with grim significance. ‘Let them perish in disgrace.
>All temples, idols and shrines of Caelestis in Carthage destroyed and "No craftsman will ever again make the idols that Christ has smashed," gloated Augustine. "Consider what power this Caelestis used to enjoy here at Carthage. But where is the kingdom of this Caelestis now?"

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Imagine browsing /lit/ while being a Christian: the foremost destroyers of literature. Imagine knowing that the supposed greatest saints in your religion such as Shenoute, Basil, Cyril, Benedict of Nursia, Chryostom, Augustine and Ambrose etc, all advocated and/or took part in the destruction of the classical world while going to /lit/ every day talking about literature and memeing about starting with the Greeks.

cringe

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>>13314718
Christianity obviously. They shut down the academies, outlawed philosophy and persecuted the philosophers. They did try and appropriate some of it to Christianity but it never really took since Neo-Platonism is so clearly on its face contradictory to everything found in Christianity.

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