/lit/ - Literature

>Even le based tradlarper who accepts suffering will eventually succumb to momentary pleasures
Is it unironically over?

I have recently seen the 2020 TV series brave new word based on the work of aldous huxley
I really liked that series and getting into a book is always a big investment for me
So I want to ask, how does the TV series compare to the actual book itself?

Apparently our society is like BNW. This is clearly not true because other people have lots of promiscuous sex outside of wedlock and I don't. We should change this.

How do you make the case that moral principles should be adhered to independent of a transcendent moral order?

In the West today, our ethical principles are mostly adhered to because, in addition to being inculcated in us from a young age, it's generally understood that not doing so would be disastrous for society.

But in Brave New World, for example, conventional morality has been made obsolete by modern pharmacology and social engineering. In the society Huxley imagines, you wouldn't be able to make a case for maintaining ethical principles on the basis of expediency, because the negative outcomes associated with amorality have been mitigated.

Without appealing to the supernatural, how do people argue that this is wrong? From a strictly utilitarian perspective, isn't it a good thing? Is there a case for moral principles as ends in and of themselves that doesn't involve God?

Looking for books and thinkers who address this question.

>Get to have sex with anyone you want
>Use whatever drugs you want
>Free to do whatever you want
So how is this bad?

>>16186717
Embryo selection will be popularized in a few years. We already live in pic related.

It won't be the proles deciding what qualities are selected

>'dystopian novel'
>actually presents a very effective society which keeps it's population content, well-fed, entertained, happy, and free.

What do we think of this book?
Is it a bit pretentious?

>>11677035
Hm. Well I suppose the dependence on the community might serve to keep them humble. But it still seems like they must serve some other function--like a place to store extra men that don't want to deal with all the crap they would need to do to raise a family. I suppose that is one of the principle functions of monasteries in the west too. Sometimes I think the "just accept it, go with the flow" current in eastern philosophies was born out of the dense population, since those societies developed agriculture and became dense so long ago. Basically, without an "just accept it" ethic, there would be way too much intragroup competition in those societies. Perhaps Europe would have gone the same way, but first the black plague cut down the population, and then colonization allowed surplus population to spill out into Africa, the Americas and Australia/New Zealand, so a philosophy to curb individual ambition wasn't necessary--in fact such ambition was rewarded when it comes to the frontier and colonization.

What are some mind blowing nooks, or books that really make you think in abstract terms to their applications to our world, or books that deal with the universe, consciousness, meaning, or spirituality.

>Book not necessarily related.

>>11468196
*blocks your path*

So, why does normalfags love 1984 so much and read it en masse, but hate Brave New World and avoid it?

I shouldn't have read 1984 before this, now I'm disappointed.

Ok /lit/ I have a question.
>America present day
>Drug problems since the 90's
>Libtard fags that think something is wrong if they aren't happy all the time
>People don't care for history past 9/11
>Being a roastie is less frowned upon
>Unreligious
>Find other peoples pain funny
>Kids having sex at a younger age is less frowned upon
>People do things on impulse all the time
My question is, is Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" becoming more accurate every day?

Anyone else have a Brave New World inspired lifestyle?

>work in retail in a fast fashion store (ending is better than mending)
>recreationally smoke legal marijuana (a gram is better than a damn, all the advantages of Christianity and alcohol and none of their defects)
>entertain myself with video games (electro-magnetic golf) and VR porn (feelies)
>go on vacations to reservations (Thailand, India, Bali) to have an experience of how the savages live and take pictures
>use the pictures of my fun lifestyle on Tinder so that I can have sex with pneumatic girls
>sometimes take MDMA and go to festivals (orgy porgy)

Seems to me like Huxley really was on to something and he wrote it 85 years ago!

>"And then so small." Fanny made a grimace; smallness was so horribly and typically low-caste.
>"I think that's rather sweet," said Lenina. "One feels one would like to pet him. You know. Like a cat."
if brave new world pro or anti manlet?

>>9903484
came to post this lul Brave New World >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1984
>>9904905
t. Hillbot

Can anyone direct me to some articles discussing the idea of valuing freedom more than comfort?

>pic is somewhat related

I finished this about a month ago, and after letting it settle in for a while, I wanna talk about it. What did /lit/ think about this.

Was Huxley right? Was John autistic? Did you like the ending?

This is a masterpiece

good books like this one?
just give me the serum

Discuss

>Student Teacher
>Have to come up with a lesson to teach about Chapters 16-18 of Brave New World for Honors Senior English
>Have to teach it Monday morning
>tfw haven't started coming up with anything at all to teach
What do, /lit/?