/lit/ - Literature

>>22116480
On every single one of those, the Gospels record different details that all individually happened and there is no contradiction with saying that fact.

> What did Jesus say on his way to the cross?
Luke 23:21-27 records it. The fact that the others don't isn't a contradiction.

>Was Jesus baptised by John or not?
This issue is entirely hallucinated as John the Baptist is always mentioned as baptising Jesus.
>How many women were at the tomb?
It doesn't say the exact number. The Bible also doesn't give the exact number of people in every crowd that is ever mentioned, and that's not a contradiction either.

>Where did Mary and Joseph go after Jesus was born?
They stayed long enough to go to the temple after the eighth day, then went to Egypt, then went to Nazareth. The fact that only Matthew mentions their sojourn into Egypt (and the fact that it matches Hosea 11:1) isn't a contradiction, for the same reason as above.
>What actually happened at the tomb?
Everything that the Gospels say happened. It can be shown how all of it happened if you need a rundown.
>What did he say to Pontius Pilate
Uhh... several different things. Is there somewhere that says Jesus only said one thing to Pontius Pilate? What kind of question is this, anon?
>How did Judas die?
He hanged himself (as it says in Matthew) and then while hanging his body fell from the tree and his bowels gushed out (as mentioned in Acts). Where's the contradiction there?

It is indeed an unusual punishment and highly unusual set of circumstances, but not impossible.

>Did Jesus die on or after passover?
To explain in simple terms: According to the Law, the 1st day of unleavened bread is when the passover lamb is killed. The date-change occurs at evening on that day according to that calendar. At evening, the calendar date changes to Nisan 14, signalling the start of the "Days (plural) of Unleavened Bread". The "Feast of Unleavened Bread" begins the next day after Nisan 14 - which is called "the Day of Preparation" - and that feast runs from Nisan 15-21 (seven days) inclusively. These seven days would start on Friday after sunset.

So, basically, late in the day on Thursday, the Last Supper occurred. Since it was already evening at this point, the date would be Nisan 14. The earliest part of the "Day of Preparation" which lasts until Friday at sunset. Afterward, the betrayal at Gethsemane occurred, early into Friday morning, which is still the Day of Preparation. So basically, Jesus died on the first day of the Passover, Nisan 14. According to our calendar, those 24 hours took up the last quarter of Thursday and the first 3/4 of Friday. They were rushing to take His body down before evening of Friday, because that was when the seven days of feasting officially began, and was also a Saturday or Sabbath. Jesus was buried toward the end of Nisan 14 on Friday, and rose again in the morning of Sunday, within Nisan 16 - "first day of the week". This is three days counted inclusively.

>>21380104
Here are a couple of examples of what I'm talking about. Comparing the KJV as a representative of the original Hebrew and translations of the Greek Septuagint (example Brenton 1844 or OSB 2008 translation).

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

Brenton Septuagint 1844 translation says:
>"For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him."
OSB Septuagint 2008 translation:
>"For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. His name will be called the Angel of Great Counsel, for I shall bring peace upon the rulers, peace and health by Him."

Notice the difference between the Hebrew version of Isaiah versus the Septuagint translations from the Greek LXX version of Isaiah. There is no reference in the latter to the title of the Son being "Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." That prophecy is only in the Hebrew Old Testament.

A few other examples:
Psalm 2:12 KJV
"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."

1844 Brenton Sept. translation:
"Accept correction, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and ye should perish from the righteous way: whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, blessed are all they that trust in him."
The 2008 OSB Septuagint also says this:
"Lay hold of His instruction, lest the Lord be angry, And you perish from the righteous way When His fury shall be quickly kindled. Blessed are all who trust in Him."

>>21057464
"But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you." (1 Peter 5:10)

>>20907104
NRSV? The one that changes "holy men of God" with "men and woman" in 2 Peter 1:21? No thanks.

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Peter 1:21)

Also it removes the words "for them that trust in riches" from Mark 10:24, a removal of part of a verse that was found in no copy on earth until someone came up with it less than 150 years ago. If someone believes in that then they have to literally think God allowed His word to be lost for thousands of years, even though it clearly says in Matthew, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." And if someone is not a Bible-believer in the first place... then why even make recommendations?